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    Exclamation Worthy of Mention & Knowing - Placing VMs

    Many may know this (cool) and I could have mentioned it earlier but, I oft take things for granted & then impulsively think maybe it's not occurring to everyone & I suddenly say something so...

    Let me paint a scenario to make the point here...

    Let's say you put Win8 on a shiny new SSD. And let's say it is 80GB. You have Hyper-V enabled and you are going to build VMs.

    You, also, have another drive w/ plenty of space, maybe a 2TB external or something.

    VMs take up space. Your Hyper-V Mgr is on C:\ BUT, when you create a VM you can tell it where to live. By default it will be put on C:\ Change that. Put them (VMs) elsewhere ergo they won't take up precious space on your SSD.

    This may be obvious, common sense or already, know to some. For others, I trust the mention is of value.

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    Default Re: Worthy of Mention & Knowing - Placing VMs

    Very good advise Drew, when I had only Windows 7 Pro on a 128GB M4 SSD, I had space for a small VM (via VirtualBox), but now that I'm dual booting both Windows 8 computers with Windows 7, it's no room (on my notebook). As with Hyper-V, VirtualBox's manager is on the "C" partition, in my personal folder where documents, photos, SkyDrive & others are.

    What I did on my notebook, since it has USB3 anyway, was took the original HDD & placed it in a 2.5" USB3 enclosure, it's 500GB & I have several partitions on it. XP Mode (for 7 Pro) is on a 25GB partition, so is XP Media Center on a slightly larger one. I also have others, as well as a generous Data partition (no need to waste precious SSD space for Data).

    The great thing is, it can removed when not needed, which is a huge plus for battery life. I did try the SSD in the optical drive bay via an adapter, but performance wasn't as good. Switched them around, & the HDD ran hotter than normal. There's no room for it to get sufficient ventilation in that space. By placing it in an aluminum enclosure & going the USB3 route, it runs faster & much cooler, & can go wherever I do. It also ran well from my powered USB3 docking station, but that's not always practical.

    In fact, it runs faster via the USB3 port than it did in it's native SATA2 configuration (as new).

    Speaking of 2TB externals, I could use one myself. I have three 1TB's + a 500GB & am running low on backup space. There's a couple of backups that I could dump, but not that many. With four computers to keep up, space runs out faster than one would think. Still have my 1st image of all, clean installed.

    The desktop PC that I plan to buy later in the year, will be imaged before it's even fired up for the first time, as was my MSI (in specs below). Booting from a WinPE CD & imaging in this fashion gives one a "brand new" computer at any time, provided the HDD is the same one, or the same size (or larger). It's also the perfect restore if one is selling the computer. The buyer gets it as the one who sold it did.

    I suppose if my 500GB HDD in the enclosure fills with VM's, I'll use one to place in the docking station for home use only. By then, I'll have a 2TB (or larger) storage HDD & can free up one of these 1TB's for VM's.

    Hopefully soon I can get into the Hyper-V deal, what was promised to be the most user friendly VM solution provided by MS is everything but that. I was figuring on it being easier to configure than Virtual PC 2007/2004 (Vista/XP) or Windows Virtual PC (Windows 7). A 12 year old child with computer experience could use those, but probably not Hyper-V, which is why I'm calling MS out for stating Hyper-V would be the most user friendly ever. It's not, & I've ran a few brands of VM software with little trouble.

    A friend is coming over to assist me soon. She felt the same way as I, & is a business professional who depends on her notebooks for a living, one she recently upgraded (as a clean install from 8 RP) for the feature. A couple of weeks after 10/26, & no clear instructions on Hyper-V implementation, the company she works for paid someone to train them.

    So much for Hyper-V being "the most user friendly ever". No one had to show me XP Mode (Windows Virtual PC), nor earlier versions, nor VMWare Player, nor VirtualBox, from which I've ran many, many different OS's, not only Windows, but Linux also. The instructions for those, anyone who can run a computer with some degree of proficiency can run them.

    Hopefully in a couple of weeks, I can have this also. No wonder why there was little or no discussion about Hyper-V on the forum, I wasn't alone. If this is a product for advanced users, MS should have been up front about it, some users bought it (Windows 8 Pro) to keep from paying for VMWare Workstation, which it's supposed to be better than.

    My only question, where is the "most user friendly ever" at? It was a selling point of the app & of Windows 8 Pro.


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