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    Peterr2
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    Default First post "refresh"

    Hello and thank you for allowing me privileges on your forum.
    I have read that one should go to Metro and click "Refresh" anywhere. I prefer advice rather then trial and error which could result in disaster.
    Does this mean to open the tiles or start and type refresh anywhere?
    Is this supposed to fix a problem or clean out unwanted material?
    I have system restore and my system is imaged to a usb drive but am curious as to what this is supposed to do.
    Thank you
    Peter

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    Peter,

    Where have you read this & in regard to what? To clarify, by "Metro" I guess you must be meaning the Start screen... If, one begins typing anything, anywhere on that screen the OS will search for that item. Windows 8 does have something called Refresh that is used if there seems to be a problem... it resets the OS w/out losing personal data but, applications have to be re-installed. It, also, has a more severe approach that puts it completely put is back to factory, re-builds the OS from scratch & loses everything. These are not for 'cleaning' or clean-up except, in the sense of if needing to wipe out any possible corruption. They are not for regular maintenance & should only be used for addressing problems as last resort efforts.

    It sounds like you have read something a bit misleading or take it out of context or maybe misinterpreted it a bit.

    Cheers,
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    Yes, I read the article which I cannot now find, and it was very confusing.
    There is system restore, imaging then refresh on the start screen which can either reset the os system without losing data but losing applications then refresh which can format then reinstall the os back to factory settings.
    I am restating what you said but wanted to be sure I had this right.
    Would you say the latter 2 are somewhat like F8 in Win 7?
    Peter

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    Hello
    It has been a while since I wrote as I was getting used to Win 8.
    Could you tell me something about "Refresh"?

    Does it work?
    Is it time consuming?
    Does it cause issues?
    Would you use it on your pc?
    Basically, does it actually do as the name implies?

    I would appreciate some opinioms before I dive into the unexpected.

    Thank you
    Peter

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    Peter,

    Yes, there is similarity to F8 in Win7.

    Does it work? YES
    Time consuming? No, except the time to reload software after it completes.
    Cause issues? No, except for having to reload software.
    Does it ACTUALLY do what it says? YES.

    Leaves personal data (files) intact but, programs have to be re-installed after "Refresh"

    The process option below Refresh, wipes out everything and puts the OS back to a virgin factory state.

    I would, still, suggest it's a fairly last-resort thing used to rectify some condition. Often, it isn't enough of a 'repair' but, sometimes can be a solution... just depends on what is wrong or why one is considering doing a Refresh or anything along such lines.

    Cheers,
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    Maybe it could be used after system restore and trouble shooting fail and before an image recovery is done. If it doesn't work an image would recover everything. I see what you mean about being subjective and depending upon the issue. Thank you for your thorough answer.
    I noticed Win 7 needs both OS disc and drivers disc, while the Win 8 disc has the drivers in it.
    Although some need updating.
    If you use the last option, do you need the OS disc created from the iso file?
    Thank you
    Peter

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    "If you use the last option, do you need the OS disc created from the iso file?"

    Shouldn't/doesn't, no. Unless it asks for it due to possibly missing files.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    "If you use the last option, do you need the OS disc created from the iso file?"

    Shouldn't/doesn't, no. Unless it asks for it due to possibly missing files.

    Cheers,
    Drew
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    Peter,
    If you're still reading this (OLD) thread, the ultimate answer is to backup your PC often, using one of the many FREE Backup programs floating around in a Cloud somewhere (the Internet).

    When something has gone REALLY wrong and you can't do a recovery with the old System Restore, or system restore can't read its Restore Points, the only option, to save all your hard work is to do a full C drive restore from a Backup Image File.

    Even thinking about re-installing windows to just recover from an accident, is such Old Time thinking.
    I've personally not done that in decades.
    There have always, even in DOS days, been backup programs. There was even one in MS DOS, although it was really a piece of #$%^!

    Anyway, in 1997, I got a free copy of a new backup program from New Zealand, called "Ghost".
    I've been using a version of that old DOS Based Backup Program ever since. The 2005 version of Ghost that I still use, will backup all OS's from Windows 95 to Windows 8. I still have backup Image Files going back several years.

    So before you have a brain aneurism, worrying about how to save your PC in a crash, just get one of the many FREE Backup Programs and start doing regular backups. Regular being no less than one backup per week.

    With over ten years of data files on my PC, I'm a little paranoid about Hard Drive crashes, so I back up the whole drive at least once a week, to a separate (external) drive and my data files get a progressive backup daily to TWO external drives.
    I even have Windows 8 on a separate drive, from XP which is my everyday OS.

    Be SAFE!

    TechnoMage
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    Backup! Backup! Backup! Ghost rocks!

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    Peterr2
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    Hello
    I was curious about refresh when new to Win 8 but understand it now.
    I always have images of the system on hand for the inevitable.
    I was using Acronis till they jacked the price of my 2010 so now use Macrium which never seems to fail.
    I always keep a baseline image with the Win native imaging program just in case, as it beats a failure and as a last resort.

    Thank you
    Peter

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