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    Acronis T.I. is only a retail program if you so choose to buy it. Otherwise it can be had for FREE.
    Likewise several other programs that I won't name here.

    I'm either Famous, or inFamous, depending on how you look at it, for saying, "the best computer software in the world is FREE!" (and legal). Or like the old Serbian said, "ve don't buy no stinkin' software!".

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    I do not pay for any features in my pc.
    I use Macrium to be current and keep an old Win 8 system image from months ago, just in case.
    I agree that one does not have to pay and actually some of the third party programs cause incompatibility issues.
    Sensitive data is kept on 2 separate flash drives and not in the pc.
    I use the native a/v and firewall for Win 8 behind the router.
    Obviously there was an initial cost for the usb drive but that's it for cost.
    I miss my 'Try and Decide' with Acronis, but like the speed and user friendliness of Macrium.
    The one TB and the 2TB take care of the lap and desk respectively.
    I can use the free version of Acronis as my drives are WD. At least I could with Win 7.
    The only feature I miss about Win 7 is my Bluetooth which I lost when I moved up. I tried everything to resurrect it to no avail.

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    We pretty much have to use some MS OS, because of the lack of viable options, but...
    we don't have to rely on MS for any of our productivity software, Security Software, or
    backup software. It's really better, sometimes, if we don't!

    Everything we might need, after the OS itself, is available from somewhere in the World for either FREE or at a very low cost. In many cases, the FREE software is much better than what comes from MS.

    I recently Googled my favorite backup program and found the .ISO for it, for free, on a European web site. Go figure!
    That would have been real tempting, if I didn't already own the program.

    Cheers Mates!
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    As a Comcast subscriber, I have the option of Using Norton Security Suite for free. I currently use the native Defender and firewall.
    There is no debate greater than the use of Norton.
    Do you have an opinion as to which would provide better protection, on the road for example, where I am not behind my ISP and router.
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    Your computer, I'm supposing it's a laptop, should not depend on either your ISP or router, for your security.

    It's been proven, over and over again, that Norton will only drain your wallet, not protect your computer.
    It can also bog down your computer and severely slow it down.
    So forget about that!

    Now, as for the optimum performance and security, when you're away from home, you need a good Package of Anti-Virus, Anti-Spyware and Anti-Trojan software. Nothing from MS is going to give you that kind of protection.

    You also need to learn what NOT to do, to keep yourself safe.

    I do go out and about with my own Laptops from time to time.
    But before I do, I make darn sure that all my protective software is up to date, to the minute.

    On the laptop that I use mostly when traveling, I have the following package of mostly FREE anti-malware software.

    AVG 2013 Internet Security (retail version)
    Spybot Search & Destroy
    Spyware Blaster
    Malware Bytes
    Trojan Hunter (retail version)
    Super Anti-Spyware

    When I find a program that I really like, I buy it.
    But the FREE versions of the programs work too, just without all the bells and whistles.

    Cheers Mate!
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    I will have to look into Avg; I doubt the security suite is free so if I use the free one I would need a firewall. It is good to know there is no conflict with Win 8.
    I hear S+D is not used as much as it used to be.
    I do have MBAM.
    Your information is helpful -thank you.

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    Peter,

    Yes, you are correct, we really do not use S&D, anymore. We IT Pros & those of us who know security programs & Windows 8 well, strongly recommend using the Windows Defender & Windows Firewall embedded in Windows 8. Also, Malwarebytes is always good to have and Spyware Blaster is good preventative medicine. Over the years, I have definitely come to prefer this over AVG or other 3rd Party softwares for protection. Have not found any negative issues with the above approach nor have any of my clients.

    Cheers,
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    Thank Drew.
    Do you think Sandboxie would help with security both at home and especially on the road?
    I am not skilled enough for using a VM but watched the tutorials about sandboxing.
    Over kill or substantial protection?
    Peter

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    Peter,

    I did experiment w/ Sandboxie some time ago. If you would feel comfortable using it @ home and "especially on the road", go right ahead... no harm, no foul. IT is a cool way to handle/approach things. It doesn't really compare to 'protection', in the sense of MSE or something of that ilk... In another sense, as you say, for some people, a lot less intimidating than virtualization.

    I have, for years, given/offered clients a 'team' of items for overall security (example - MSE, Malwarebytes, Spyware Blaster). Certainly, Sandboxie could be in a mix... can only serve in a positive way and creates no conflicts w/ actual security software or protection programs.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterr2 View Post
    I will have to look into Avg; I doubt the security suite is free so if I use the free one I would need a firewall. It is good to know there is no conflict with Win 8.
    I hear S+D is not used as much as it used to be.
    I do have MBAM.
    Your information is helpful -thank you.
    Well, I've not found anyone who really knows how to properly set up Spybot S&D. Just sticking it on your PC does you virtually no good at all. That's why I composed an entire page of instructions on how to install it and set it up for maximum efficiency and put those instructions on my web site.
    It's also available here:
    https://www.box.com/s/p3irmlige343bt1i66ae
    Download the instructions, print them out and then have them in hand, while you install Spybot S&D 1.6.2 .
    Every mouse click is important.

    I've actually found that program on customer's PC's , where it never had the first update, Immunization or Scan.
    Even AVG won't work properly unless you go into Advanced options and set up the Scheduler for the daily updates and scans. Yes, the AVG Free version, does not have the Firewall. Use the one in Windows.
    Many programs are like that, if you don't know how to set them up, they will never work properly.

    Cheers Mates!
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