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    How to backup Windows 8? and backup the files in Windows 8?

    Is there any way for that?

    I'd like a freeware for this. Thank you.

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    Default Re: Windows 8 Backup

    Set the Backup

    To set up a backup in Windows 7 open up Computer right-click on your local drive and select Properties. Then click on the Tools tab and click the Back up now button.
    In the Back up or restore your files window click the link to set up a backup.
    Windows will search for a suitable drive to store the backup or you can also choose a location on your network. If you backup to a network location you might need the password to the share.
    You can have Windows choose what to backup or you can choose the files and directories. Because I like more user control for this tutorial I am choosing what to backup but it’s completely up to you.
    Now review the backup job and make sure everything looks correct.
    Here you can also schedule the days and times the backup occurs.
    Save the backup settings and kick off your first backup and while it runs you can monitor the progress.
    Click the View Details button to see exactly what is being backup during the process.
    When the backup is complete you will see the two backup files and image folder if you created one. I backed up 20GB of data and it took around 15 minutes including the system image which came to 11GB.
    Double click on the backup file and can restore files or manage the size of the backups folder.
    For a software, please search it online.

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    Default Re: Windows 8 Backup

    If you have important data files on a TEST OS, which you shouldn't, then you can back them up to whatever drive you like with a drag-N-drop, or "Send To", just like you would in XP, Vista or Win-7, or,
    you can write a little batch file using XCOPY to copy those files to another drive, even a Flash Drive.

    As for backing up the whole C: partition, the programs that worked for Win-7, still work for Win-8.
    I've been using GHOST, since 1997 and still use it, albeit a later version, even for Windows 8. It runs from a DOS boot disk and still works GREAT. (Ghost 11.5)
    I now use it every day, after I've made changes to win-8.

    All you need is a spare partition or spare drive to save the Backup Image files to.

    Good Luck!
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    For Imaging, which is what we are talking about for whole disk backup, I use Acronis True Image Home. I use both versions 2010 and 2011. They are not free. For free, TachnoMage has mentioned Ghost, others are Macrium Reflect and EaseUs ToDo v4.

    I just found this article about creating a custom Refresh Point in Win 8 CP with RecImg Tool.

    Remember to always create a Boot disk (will fit on a CD) for whatever app you decide to use to create your Images. Why do we create Images, because something bad happens. If you PC won't boot you need the Boot disk to boot to in order to load the Imaging app. From here you connect the device you stored your images on (Hopefully not the bad HD, I use an ext HDD) and follow the prompts.

    I also use this boot disk to create my images so I'm totally isolated from Windows during the creation of my images. Remember that after creating your image you should validate it, and then comes the scarry part. In order to ensure it works you have to actually restore the Image. This is best done at the early stages of Win 8 CP when there is not much to lose if things go wrong. Once you build up your confidence in imaging then you just go for it.
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    There is also Control Panel, File History which backs up the Libraries, Desktop, contacts, and Favorites to an external drive. This could be very useful as well. I'm learning new things every day with this OS.

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    I use dropbox to back up all my stuff..It is free and you get 2 gig of storage but you can buy more storage if you like. What I like about it is once you install it on your computer and drag files to the dropbox folder it automatically puts it on the dropbox on the web for your access. You also have the option of using USB flash drives and if you can afford a external hard drive works good.
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    And just how do you get your entire C: drive back when it just went up in a ball of fire and smoke?

    Off site data backup is totally worthless in that instance. Or what happens to your data if the off site backup company has a hard drive CRASH, or they go out of business, which thousands of .com companies have done in the last ten years.
    Don't trust ANYONE with your data.

    Do an on-site backup of your entire C: drive to a second internal hard drive, or to an external USB drive or even to a DVD disk and you will usually have an image of your C: drive that you can install to a brand new hard drive to recover from a HD disaster.

    Minus the time to install the new drive, your Restore time can be as little as ten minutes. I've been doing backups and setting up backup scenarios for individuals, Private Companies and even Corporations and Banks for about 30 years, so I know what works best.

    And out of all that, I still use Ghost, the original Hard Drive Backup Program, first written in 1997 by a little known software company in New Zealand. I still run my Ghost Backup program from a DOS boot CD or Flash Drive..... because once your hard drive has gone up in smoke, your Restore program MUST be on a Bootable CD or Flash Drive, that can boot your system and run your Restore Program, to access your backup Image File.

    In all the years since I started using Ghost, in 1997, I've crashed many hard drives, but I've never lost one bit of data, thanks to my Ghost Backups. I do them at least once a week and keep at least six backups on my Backup Drive.

    The only BAD backup is the one you decided NOT to make. But you DO need to set up a Backup scenario for your hard drive that assures a total recovery in the event of a total HD CRASH. (it WILL happen, not IF, but When)
    Anything less is just plain Stupid.

    I'll gladly work with anyone wanting to set up a backup program for their own PC.

    Cheers Mates!
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    Last edited by TechnoMage; 04-21-2012 at 02:02 PM.
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    Backup software is a "must have" just as security software is. While one can pay for this type of software (such as Acronis True Image, of which I have the 2010 version), the free Macrium Reflect does a fantastic job of imaging. So does Todo 4, one also gets file backups with the free version, Macrium (free version) is imaging only.

    I highly recommend to do a image backup of a new PC (or fresh & re-installs) after the install is complete, including updating & removing any unwanted crapware. This gives you a "clean install" whenever you need one. Also, I backup before Update Tuesday & before making any major system wide changes, such as creating new partitions, or adding a OS (like Windows 8 CP). Having these 2 backups on hand will protect you in case of HDD failure or virus/malware attack.

    And keep your data backed up more often than that. The OS is replaceable, personal data (family pictures, finances, installer (.exe) files, important emails, tax software/data, years of bookmarks & much more) isn't. Normally, for the home user, data doesn't take as much room as imaging a multi OS drive does. It's best to keep 2 copies of your personal data, in separate locations. DVD's hold a lot of data, that's an option, there's portable hard drives that holds to to 1TB, that's an excellent option also. But still, backup that drive also. As to the 2nd location, bank safety deposit boxes are included with some accounts, if not, it's only $20 per year or less.

    Also, it's a good practice to store your backup drive(s) away from your computer(s), for theft prevention, & never leave it plugged in to your computer while turned on, unless you're one of the very few users who uses the non-stop backup feature, like Acronis offers. Normally, these type of users are using one of those backup devices that has 2 to 4 HDD's within it, containing up to a total of 8TB storage, also known as Network Attached Storage (NAS) devices. These are geared more towards business users, although there's smaller ones for Home users, who may have an extensive collection of music, movies & games.

    I've offered a few reasons as to why to backup, these are just scratching the surface, but anyone who reads this should take notice & begin a backup routine, if you haven't already.

    The final reason as to why: The day will come that you'll need it. I didn't state "may", but "will". Don't let your precious memories get lost forever. The cost of that is priceless for many. The cost of a backup drive now looks to be far cheaper than thought, doesn't it?

    Since I don't use the service, although I've been offered plenty of storage, I cannot state with confidence, regardless of brand, that online backup is the best (or even viable) option for important things. If one does use these services, then have a hard copy of the data also. I simply don't care for these services, some may though, & I respect that. It's a personal decision.

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    I also recreated Images as time goes on, usually at least monthly. Lets say you create you "gold standard" Image when you first installed and customized your OS. Now, say 6 months later, your HD dies. How many updates, or different apps, or different customizations have you done during the 6 months since you created that image? Once you restore from your "gold standard" image all of those changes since that image was made have to be done again. Now if you created a new Image right after that last change you made to your OS, then the HD dies, as soon as you install a new HD, it takes about 10 minutes to be right back where you were when the HD dies. No updating needed.

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    Gads! I love that new avatar!

    The most gut wrenching thing that can happen to a conscientious Computer Tech is to get a call that the PC won't boot.
    Then to get on-site and find out that the Hard Drive is GONE! Allus Kaput! The cost of the repair is usually not so much at issue as the years of saved documents, pictures and email. And, all those favorites and the address book, Gone forever. You can do all sorts of things to save your valuable stuff, BEFORE the HD dies, but very little afterward.

    So there are OPTIONS, many Options! Acronis True Image (backup program) is mentioned often, but how many know that you can have it for FREE? If you have a Seagate HD and you go to the Seagate web site, you can download "Sea Tools", which incorporates ATI. We used to do the same thing with Maxtor, downloading "Max Blast" with ATI inside. A "MaxBlast" CD came packaged with every new (Retail Boxed) Maxtor hard drive. Of course, Maxtor was absorbed by Seagate.

    I got Ghost, years ago as a premium, on a drivers disk for a new motherboard. So Free versions of some of the worlds best backup software are FREE if you just LOOK for it. I'll stop there, lest someone accuse me of advocating piracy.
    I'm NOT!

    Having to use a backup image file that's months old was just mentioned by "The Terminator". That too can be a time for hand wringing and tears. So much can be lost, even in just a few days, let alone Months.

    I once got a call from a customer of mine, who is a writer, that he'd lost his book, that he was writing in MS Word. No backups, of course. I knew that was going to be a difficult call, so I took my friend and Software Guru, Joe, with me on the call. It took Joe a good half hour to recover the files representing the 'Book'.
    We both suggested to the guy that he backup his work, every few minutes, to a Flash Drive, while writing.
    I went back a few months later for a regular Tune-up and found five Flash Drives laying on the table next to the computer. Apparently, the guy had taken our suggestions seriously.

    Just one of many ways to do file backups, is to use a Flash drive plugged into one of the rear USB ports on the PC. Plug it in, leave it there and it becomes like a second hard drive.
    Then write a simple batch file to use XCOPY, to copy the latest files from the "My Documents" folder to the Flash Drive. Here's a sample line from my own Backup batch file.

    xcopy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\My Documents\*.*" "D:\My Documents\" /s /y /H /R /D

    Since I use the wildcard %username% instead of my own name, I can use that same batch file for anyone's computer. Also, with the switches that I've used, the batch file only backs up files that are new or have been changed since the last backup. The only time it will back up EVERY file, is on the very first time it's run on that particular target drive. A daily backup can take as little as two or three seconds.
    This particular batch file is written for the path that exists in windows XP, and may not be correct for Vista, Win-7 or Win-8. Many things I've written for XP, must be modified for use with later OS's.
    In the above example, drive "D" is actually my built-in Backup Drive.
    But it could also be a Flash Drive, or even an external drive.

    Now where, how and when to run such a batch file.
    Well, it can be run manually, from a desktop shortcut, or, it can be run from the Startup folder on every boot-up, or it can be run from a shutdown batch file, to run every time you shut down your PC. It can also be run from a batch file that runs your Word Processor, Spreadsheet, Data Base, Email program, etc. Batch files are just as much 'In Vogue' as they were 32 years ago, when I first started working with the IBM PC. It's mostly that Batch Language is just not taught anymore. Too bad, because it's a very powerful programming language that can really make life with a computer much more enjoyable, much simpler and much safer.

    If I have a job, that I know I'm going to do repeatedly, I just write a batch file to do the job, like installing desktop shortcuts, installing wallpaper or sound files, or shutting down up to 40, UN-needed services on Win-7 and 8. (24 on XP)

    Sorry this ran so long, but, it's not a subject that can be condensed into a simple 'One Liner'.

    Cheers Mates!
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    Last edited by TechnoMage; 04-22-2012 at 06:52 AM. Reason: Insert additional info
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