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    Default antivirus for windows 8 - windows defender vs Microsoft Security Essentials

    Hi,

    Is anyone using Microsoft Security Essentials as their anti-virus/anti-spyware program? I have not installed any antivirus for windows 8 since I installed windows 8. I am wondering if I should install Microsoft Security Essentials. What is the difference between windows defender and Microsoft Security Essentials? If they are similar, I guess its not necessary to install it.

    Just post your opinion on this. Thank you!

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    Default Re: antivirus for windows 8 - windows defender vs Microsoft Security Essentials

    Windows Defender detects and removes known spyware only. It is not designed to protect against the full breadth of malicious software, and specifically does not prevent viruses, worms, Trojans, and other malicious software from infecting your machine.

    But if you are running Microsoft Security Essentials, you do not need to run Windows Defender. Microsoft Security Essentials is designed to disable Windows Defender in order to manage the PC’s real-time protection, including anti-virus, rootkits, Trojans and spyware.

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    Default Re: antivirus for windows 8 - windows defender vs Microsoft Security Essentials

    This is not true antivirus. Windows Defender is a full AV/AM app modeled after MSE in Win 7. It is installed and enabled by default on Win 8 CP. It is quite highly rated when compared against other free offerings and many paid suites.

    Whereas in Win 7 you had to install MSE separately in Win 8 CP it is installed natively to provide this protection from the get go. If you have the very latest version of MSE, it is v 4.XXX. WD is at v 6.XXX.

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    Default Re: antivirus for windows 8 - windows defender vs Microsoft Security Essentials

    Recommended from my computer.

    Antivirus - AVG
    Antispy- / malware - Spybot - Search and Destroy, Malwarebytes, Superantispyware.( Last one might use alot of Memory so besure not to keep it running in the background.

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    Default Re: antivirus for windows 8 - windows defender vs Microsoft Security Essentials

    LawaBoy, thanks for the tip! Didn't realize that SAS used that much RAM in the background, it's idling at 35%, my CPU at 3% (at the moment). This is a HUGE difference from Windows 7 Pro x64 on this PC, it's a total resource HOG. If lucky, the CPU idles at 60%, RAM at 50%. That's with nothing but essential Windows services running & my 3 paid security apps (same as Windows 7). SAS may be contributing to heavy RAM usage at startup on Windows 7, but not all of the time.

    Which are as follows, ESET Smart Security 5, MBAM Pro Lifetime & SAS Pro Lifetime. I'm running ESET because I had an extra install left of my 3 PC subscription. Bought the MBAM Pro Lifetime license for Windows 8 (I have a total of 4 of these on different OS's). Had two 2 user licenses of SAS Pro Lifetime (total of 4), used the extra one on Windows 8 CP.

    3 same active security apps, the main differences is in the OS's. So far, Windows 8 CP x64 uses far less resources than Windows 7 Pro x64 does (Win 8 CP could probably run off other OS's waste & have extra left over). More & more by the day, Windows 8 CP is becoming my daily OS, Windows 7 is beginning to feel old to me. Just like my XP installs, Windows 7 is seldom booted into any longer, & that's only to make a purchase/conduct other business. Even then, the first things showing are updates. Secunia has found a new update for something. I got tired of it & set Secunia (& many other apps, except ESET, MBAM & SAS) not to run at startup to let me get what I need to get done & get back onto Windows 8 CP.

    I'll give WD a fair chance to prove itself, once Windows 8 RP is released, but will be watching it closely. ESET blocks known bad sites, downloads with toolbars & other adware from even opening/executing. I expect the same out of the highly rated Windows Defender, absolutely no less.

    I also have a virtual install of Windows 8 CP on my notebook, but it's seldom used. Once Windows 8 RP is released, I'll delete that VM, create another, by that time Windows 8 & WD will be fairly mature. Being that it's a virtual install, whatever happens will not affect my regular install. I'll take Windows 8 RP (with WD & MBAM) for a world tour (many types of sites) & see just how the security stacks up vs the competition.

    With my current scheme, I've not been infected for over 2 years. No matter where I've been on the net, my back has been covered. If I run across a site with malware, it's blocked before the page opens. Same with some software downloads, the actual app may be good, but there's hidden crap in some. Many of these are totally blocked, & if not blocked from downloading, blocked from opening/executing.

    Once Windows 8 RP is out, I can further evaluate WD & decide to fully endorse it or not. Probably by late next year (it's usual testing schedule), it should, if successful, be on AV-Comparatives list, for further comparison against other security apps. AV-Comparatives is independent, ads don't influence any tests, the playing field is totally level. No excuses.

    That is, if they're using Windows 8 as their testing base. Depending on how well Windows 8 is received, it may or may not be the testing base. It took 2 years after Windows 7's release before AV-Comparatives to stop using XP Pro SP3 as their testing base. May take the same time with Windows 8.

    AV-Comparatives is the best independent site, but there are others. Windows Defender for Windows 8 will at some point, begin to be rated on these type of sites.

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    Default Re: antivirus for windows 8 - windows defender vs Microsoft Security Essentials

    No problems catilley1092,

    What is allso recommended is to disable all anti-spy-/malware software from running at startup and just leave the antivirus software running. Can save up alot of Memory. Unless you have like 8gb or more RAM.

    This can be done by either disabling things in the Starup tab in your Task Manager, or by using a program like CCleaner.

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