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    I do believe I am observing IE11 to be more stable than IE10.

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    Personally, even w/ the ability to use the Windows button on the Taskbar to go to All Applications

    I, still, prefer to have an Applications window on the Taskbar. I like having an 'old fashioned' alphabetical listing and, still, like not having to change screens (from Desktop). I use this approach in Windows 8, always have and I, actually, am going to still use it even in Windows 8.

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    IE11 seems to be faster with me also.

    Now, if only some developers will write some decent adblockers/spellcheckers for the browser. There are a few good addons, however IE seems to be left out of the better written (& free) apps I just mentioned.

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    hmm Im using Decor 8 and start 8 to customize my windows. I suppose these one will wont work anymore right ? What about oblytile the custom tile maker? Ive seen you can shrink some tiles to 1/4 scale. Hmmm .. that is propbably an useful feature for touch usrs with smaller monitors but for those with widescreens there is no really a "make room" problem and anyway they would be displayed quite too small on this monitors

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    Some of the customizations may still work, some may not. Some will require updates from it's publisher, as with many other apps. So far, I've found only one 3rd party security solution that works on 8.1 w/o issue, that's Emsisoft Anti Malware (just updated to new version 8). The others, crashes during the install process. Amazing feat in itself, a brand new upgraded security package installed correctly the first time & actually works as it's supposed to.

    Eventually, I feel that MS is leaning towards getting most apps from their store, that is, if the Windows 8 project (8.1 is a part of that) ends up being a success. If not, who knows what direction that Windows will turn. MS has customers, partners, investors & shareholders alike to please.

    I see Windows 7 getting a reprieve, just as MS did with XP. That OS's support should have ended up on the unsupported list less than a year after Windows 2000 was taken off the lifeline. It was the failures of the Vista project that breathed new life into XP, of which many users refused for another 2 to 3 years after the release of Windows 7 to upgrade & many still hasn't to date.

    The fact is, whether we may or may not like it, is that most humans are resistant to change. The clear majority aren't in the world that some of us are in, wanting the latest OS before it's even formally released, most doesn't even want it at all.

    And another fact, which I typed long before I read it in articles, is that Windows 7 is the "new XP". Sales of Windows 7 are still brisk & some computers are sold as Windows 8 Pro w/a built in downgrade to 7 Pro. The user, if desired, can begin using Windows 8 whenever they want.

    That said, Windows 8.1, after a couple of changes, is running good on my Toshiba & I'm satisfied with what I see. However, on the HP, after 6 hours of non-stop perfect use after install/updating & installing desired apps, took a nosedive the next morning. Am still working on what has determined the cause of the sudden failure by freshly installing again, on another HDD. Just done that today & will work on it over the weekend.

    I have no intention of purchasing 8.1 for that PC (unless it's another $40 deal), as it's going to be replaced late in the year. However, the preview is good until 01/15/2014, so I'm determined, if possible, to get it running w/o issues. Speaking of promos, MS is going to have to find a way for those who tried the 8 previews & chose not to purchase to buy 8.1 at discount pricing. 8 doesn't work with some hardware, meaning that it's going to take a clean install of 8.1 for many customers to bite.

    Is another promo in the works for those who passed up last year? MS is giving it away to those who has 8 & 8 Pro (& RT), they have little to lose & a lot to gain by offering a promo again. And like with 8 Pro last year, with a straight upgrade path from the preview.

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    I am, maybe, the wrong one to answer one part of this since I have never seen a need in Windows 8 for 3rd Party 'start stuff' nor do I in Win 8.1, maybe, even less of a need.

    As for oblytile the custom tile maker, I believe this was posed earlier & I suggested going to its web site for such info & the answer.

    Cat, writes things that are longish sometimes but, I noticed one part that needs comment. For anyone who is not aware, right now we have been given a Preview of the forthcoming Windows 8.1 to sample. Windows 8.1 will go RTM later this year, @ which time it will be pushed out as a Windows Update to persons, already, running Windows 8... there is / will be nothing to purchase, nothing needing to be purchased. You will be installing an Update not, an OS.

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    Drew, no straight Windows 8.1 install path to be offered? Or will the OS be repackaged, as Win 7 SP1 was?

    Any other way would be a lot of work to install the OS. Plus, as I've (& others) noted on several occasions, 8.1 runs better than 8, as driver support has improved, as well as faster installs. It is, in essence, an OS in itself, that would for many, run on computers that 8 Pro was supposed to last October & didn't.

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    It will be pushed out as an Automatic Windows Update. Offering its Features, tweaks and improvements (you mention) to Windows 8. It is more & different when compared to SPs. SPs are basically roll-ups of previously issued updates but, don't usually avail anything particularly new, improved or different to an OS... 8.1 does & will.

    IE has spellcheck ever since IE10. Security & speed in IE11 are both even stronger than IE10.

    IE11 will support touch. It is expected to support Google's SPDY protocol. It will be coming w/ Windows 8.1 when that is released late summer 2013. IE11 will, also, be made available to & for Windows 7 but, the date for that is not know @ this moment. It will not support OSs earlier than Windows 7.
    It will be Standards Compliant... this started in IE10 but, will be even more so in IE11.

    No, Cat; it is an UPDATE to Windows 8. But, cannot be called or considered a SP. More like a modification of Windows 8. It builds on Windows 8. It is not a new (& separate) OS platform or kernel.

    I will suggest that @ some time after 8.1 has been released you may well find OEM machines that appear to be Windows 8.1 machines, out of the box.

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    Well, hopefully MS will release new install packages to reflect the changes, which will no doubt help sales.

    And hopefully this release will also help those who has already bought Windows 8 computers to have a more positive experience. So far, with 8.1, I've not installed any 3rd party Start options, as everything is within easy reach. Plus, the option to boot to Desktop is within a simple right click on the Taskbar.

    I'm still debating about what version of Windows I'll get on my new PC later in the year, as I'll allow others to buy their new ones & beta test those first. It's not only MS here, it's also the OEM's who has to make it all work. Not all has done a good job with Windows 8.

    Tomorrow, for the 2nd time since a relative bought a Windows 8 notebook that has very good specs (a Samsung), I'm having to go check her computer out. She bought it at Best Buy as a demo, which saved her $400, but it's been a pain. She carried it back the first time it gave trouble & guess what? The Geek Squad man actually installed the free Slim Drivers app on it & updated it with what basically amounts to generic drivers.

    Now it's running slow again, strange for a notebook with a Intel i7 3630QM & 16GB of DDR3 1600 RAM. I feel that a reinstall is in order w/o the Best Buy & Geek Squad software. There has to be some bad drivers on that machine.

    I hope that 8.1 helps her, because if it doesn't, she's going to get me to install Windows 7 Pro OEM on it. Her friend has the very same model with 7 on it & it rocks (with half the RAM), which only causes her more frustration.

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    Performance on the same hardware should be better w/ 8 than 7. That machine w/ 8 should just fly. I am not a fan of Best Buy, @ all. And wouldn't let their Geek Squad touch anything.

    Who knows what went on w/ that whilst it was a BB demo unit.

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