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    Default Re: Windows 8 Pro pricing announced and what a deal! $39.99 USD

    It would be great to be in the category that we could get the RTM when released in August. I'm not so I guess I'll have to wait until Oct 26th.

    I will never own a Mac in this household! I demand to be able to customize my OS, and I demand to purchase the H/W I wish from the reseller I wish without Apple telling me what I can or can not do! I also demand the free S/W that is available from where ever I can get it, not the offerings that Apple sees fit to let me have. Apple is just way too restrictive for their overpriced PC's, so thanks, but no thanks.

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    Default Re: Windows 8 Pro pricing announced and what a deal! $39.99 USD

    Just checking, did y'all notice this entry of mine, from a couple days ago??

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    The Windows 8 Pro upgrades obtained via these promotional prices will include 90-days of no-charge support from Microsoft which will begin at the moment the Windows 8 installation and activation is completed.


    This is in conjunction w/ the $16 conversion of a new Win7 machine to Win8 and the $40 Win8 Upgrades. Inarguably the adds to the "good deal" value.

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    Default Re: Windows 8 Pro pricing announced and what a deal! $39.99 USD

    Don't worry, the naysayers will still be looking for any little morsel of bad publicity or bad info they can find to cling to, in the hopes of pointing out why Win 8 is "so bad".

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    I feel that the naysayers, especially those who were producing those silly anti-Win 8 videos, took a dagger to the heart after the $39.99 price was announced. At this price, anyone with a computer built to run Vista forward should be able to run & deploy Windows 8 Pro.

    The exception being those ultra small, overpriced netbooks, many of which were pushed by the cell providers to sign a 2 year data contract. Those netbooks does sound expensive now, doesn't it? I was offered one less than a year ago for $50, by the original owner, only 2 months old. But I can't see those small monitors, reminds me of those 7" portable TV's that one can plug into a lighter/accessory socket, who can see that crap?

    However, I knew of someone who wanted a notebook or netbook of any type, cheap & in good condition, as long as it ran Windows, it has 7 Starter on it. He needed it for his daughter for school, was unemployed at the time & I knew he was good for the money, so I bought it. He paid me back $10 per month, plus an unexpected extra $10 for helping him at a time when he was down came in the mail with a thank you card.

    Anyway, I just can't see how anyone with a computer that meets the specs can refuse this deal, it's so sweet.

    As far as Apple goes, their products won't enter my home. Why is that? Their products are too overpriced for the average user, be it a computer, phone or music gadget. I can buy 2 quality Windows computers for the price of one of Apple's mid-level iMacs (an i5, 6GB RAM, 500GB HDD for $1,600). That number really increases with their phones, & I don't give a rat's tail for an iPod. I grew out of spending lots for music long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaltC View Post
    I agree that it is high time Microsoft aggressively promotes a new OS like Win8 in this manner... They'll need to do that anyway with Win8, and not just because of the Metro controversy. For most people, Win7 is literally "good enough"--and Microsoft's real problem moving ahead is how to convince people to upgrade software they believe has no need for upgrading in the first place. I don't doubt that this kind of deep discounting is going to be the norm for Microsoft OS version releases from here on out. Microsoft cannot have its cake and eat it, too--the company cannot artificially shrink the time between OS version releases to a mere three years or so and then expect people to be willing to pay out maximally to upgrade. Five to seven year gaps would be more reasonable, and provide more time for new technology to develop that could be be better supported by a new OS version--and in the process create a larger pent-up demand for a new OS. The time between the Win7 and Win8 release is so short, imo, that there is almost no "pent-up" demand for a new OS from Microsoft at all! So, Microsoft has got to work at creating that demand and a $39.99 price tag is just the ticket!...

    But I hear too many people talk about the low, low price of OS X version upgrades while it's clear they really haven't thought much about it all. Apple insists that you buy your computer from Apple or it won't allow you to run OS X on it, no matter how little you paid for the software... OTOH, Microsoft has always allowed its users to pick and choose their hardware without insisting they use a Microsoft-branded computer to run Windows. Huge difference there. Windows will run on everything, including a Mac--OS X won't run on anything *besides* a Mac. Windows has always been worth major premiums over OS X simply because Windows supports tons more hardware than OS X right out of the gate. I have no objection to Apple charging what it will for OS X, but it's not the same thing as Microsoft deciding what to charge for Windows--it's not even close. There are all kinds and categories of hardware for which OS X drivers are unobtainable at any price whereas Windows drivers are readily available. How do you put a price on that kind of advantage? Nevertheless, here's Win8 Pro & MP coming in at $39.99! Apple cannot touch that offer with a 30-foot-pole...




    Unless you are opting for the DVD package--just download direct--and get up and running on October 26th, 2012, I believe!
    WaltC,
    Great post! Your thoughts are spot on! Hope you keep posting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaltC View Post
    I agree that it is high time Microsoft aggressively promotes a new OS like Win8 in this manner... They'll need to do that anyway with Win8, and not just because of the Metro controversy. For most people, Win7 is literally "good enough"--and Microsoft's real problem moving ahead is how to convince people to upgrade software they believe has no need for upgrading in the first place. I don't doubt that this kind of deep discounting is going to be the norm for Microsoft OS version releases from here on out. Microsoft cannot have its cake and eat it, too--the company cannot artificially shrink the time between OS version releases to a mere three years or so and then expect people to be willing to pay out maximally to upgrade. Five to seven year gaps would be more reasonable, and provide more time for new technology to develop that could be be better supported by a new OS version--and in the process create a larger pent-up demand for a new OS. The time between the Win7 and Win8 release is so short, imo, that there is almost no "pent-up" demand for a new OS from Microsoft at all! So, Microsoft has got to work at creating that demand and a $39.99 price tag is just the ticket!...

    But I hear too many people talk about the low, low price of OS X version upgrades while it's clear they really haven't thought much about it all. Apple insists that you buy your computer from Apple or it won't allow you to run OS X on it, no matter how little you paid for the software... OTOH, Microsoft has always allowed its users to pick and choose their hardware without insisting they use a Microsoft-branded computer to run Windows. Huge difference there. Windows will run on everything, including a Mac--OS X won't run on anything *besides* a Mac. Windows has always been worth major premiums over OS X simply because Windows supports tons more hardware than OS X right out of the gate. I have no objection to Apple charging what it will for OS X, but it's not the same thing as Microsoft deciding what to charge for Windows--it's not even close. There are all kinds and categories of hardware for which OS X drivers are unobtainable at any price whereas Windows drivers are readily available. How do you put a price on that kind of advantage? Nevertheless, here's Win8 Pro & MP coming in at $39.99! Apple cannot touch that offer with a 30-foot-pole...




    Unless you are opting for the DVD package--just download direct--and get up and running on October 26th, 2012, I believe!
    Very good info in your post, Walt! One thing to keep in mind, though. MS has always had a pattern in place for upgrading to a new OS, that is, except for a later XP replacement. I don't really recall the reason for the 5 year gap between XP & Vista (the one consumer OS that had a long gap in between releases), perhaps XP's success at the time was a factor, I'd have to research that.

    But certainly, there has been 3 year upgrades since Windows Vista, & MS has long ago announced that every released OS has a particular life span, Windows 8 won't be an exception to that rule.

    The good thing is, it looks as if MS has smelled the roses & lowered it's new version costs. One thing that can be considered a contributing factor, besides the obvious steep competition, is that there's no longer an excuse to run pirated Windows OS's. I've read one article that agreed with this, that it would very well possibly allow a pirated OS to pass the check...to permanently blacklist such keys, giving the good old black screen to potentially thousands of users. This would in turn, give these users an option to get legal the same way, by purchasing Windows 8 Pro for $39.99. Cost would no longer be a factor, as MS adjusts prices based upon the region, some (citizens of impoverished countries) would pay less than $39.99 USD. Which is fine with me, it's no wonder why pirating Windows is so rampant.

    After all, getting $40 is far better than allowing freeloading, not to mention the risk of allowing these systems to continue running, which poses a risk to some degree to us all. So in a sense, that $40 offer is hanging out there for more reasons than one.

    I'm very much ready for 10/26 to get here, & hope that you all are as well.

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    This is good deal at $40.00 for it!

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    I honestly can't see where one could go wrong with buying it. Even if there were minor issues to be corrected after the purchase, within reason (I'm not speaking of an install on a 10+ year old computer), but there are some things like built in wi-fi cards, that may cause a BSOD during the install. Hey, it won't be the 1st time it's happened. I've had a couple of express type wi-fi cards cause BSOD's with Dell Latitudes running XP Pro.

    On my HP desktop, I have to make 3 to 5 attempts at a clean install, or a reset (which actually takes longer), it loads fine, then after reboot, exactly at 74% each time, it gives the good old BSOD. Finally, after a few attempts (at which point I'm ready to put my fist through the screen), it'll install.

    I say it's the wi-fi card because, strangely, this same one worked perfectly on 8 CP, it installed the 1st time, every time. There were no BSOD's between 02/29 & 05/31 (8 CP), not a single one. RP, although a more complete OS, started this crap from the 1st install, though that time, it did go through on the 2nd attempt.

    Also, it's the only non-functioning component listed in the Device Manager (Qualcomm Atheros AR5007EG wireless network adapter), don't know where the "Qualcomm" came from, on my OEM (Win 7 Pro x64 install), it shows as "Atheros AR5007EG wireless network adapter". Being that it worked, I don't recall if it said "Qualcomm" or not in the Device Manager, no need to look when all is working.

    The only thing that I know to try is to disconnect the component, I don't use it anyway, it's a "G-54Mbps" connection, I have a couple of USB "N-150" wi-fi adapters that works much better & has longer range. My only issue with this, is that the computer is still under warranty through mid-November, if there were any obvious tampering (this cheap computer's case is made entirely of plastic, a tutorial stated that it was easily cracked or broken), my claim would be denied.

    These All-In-One (AIO) computers are the hardest computers to work on, much more so than a notebook. Fortunately, there were RAM & HDD covers, these components were easily upgraded. But it would also be great to have an extra fan in there, somewhere, if it could fit. Currently, I'm forcing cooler air through the hard drive opening with a small personal desktop fan, both MB & CPU temps drops dramatically. Without the fan, these temps rises to the lower to mid 60's (C), running it, they drop to the upper 40's. Plus the HDD drops from 42C to 28-29C, sometimes 26. These lowered temps will lead to a longer lasting computer, if only 3 more years.

    But once that warranty has expired (with still 2 & a half months on the promo), I can go for it, remove the wi-fi card, clean the PC up & the BSOD's should be fixed. Anyway, I don't even use the wi-fi card, I use the Ethernet connection on the rear of the PC.

    For $40 + local taxes, I'll have plenty of time to get it right. Personally, I can't see where anyone with a computer designed to run Vista & forward can't run Windows 8. Those computers that are currently running Vista SP2, if they could, would probably give it's owner a hug for installing it. These has a lot to gain in freed up resources, would probably run faster & cooler too.

    I'm very much looking forward to 10/26. Hope MS has plenty of servers open, & get this ball going first thing in the morning. It's not like they wouldn't have an excuse NOT to be ready, as MSDN/TechNet subscribers can get the OS soon, if not now.

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    Absolutely, it bloody well is that!! Yep, no 2 ways about it... getting a shiny, new OS for $40, that's it in a nutshell;

    As in, wow!

    Whatever one felt about it or did w/ it, for $40 bucks...
    ( AND that's w/ 6 mos. FREE support!!)

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    I've spent that much money many times over on dining out with my wife, & 6 months of support didn't come with it. One night, mabye....

    I forgot to state in my post above, that I have a notebook that runs Windows 8 RP perfectly, no BSOD's, Hyper-V is enabled (my hardware supports it), & on a SSD, it runs fast as h.... you figure out the rest. From a push of the power button to having a usable browser in 15 seconds, before the AV has a chance to update, beating Win 7 Pro by 6 seconds, shuts down in 3 seconds.

    Whether it's on a SSD or mechanical HDD, Windows 8 RP beats Windows 7 hands down when it comes to speed, lowered system resource usage (proven by longer battery life), built in security, Hyper-V for VM's (comparable to VMWare Workstation), customizable, & fully automated maintenance, to name a few.

    Who can beat all of this for $40? And for a family that has several computers, the savings really adds up. Remember, this is Windows 8 Pro that we're speaking of here, in the past, any Windows OS with the "Pro" name, upgrades were close to $200, Full versions were $300. This still holds today for Full Retail versions for Windows 7 Pro, as well as XP Pro today.

    There is no guarantee that Windows will be priced this low again, none whatsoever. We're the benefactors of major change & innovation in motion. And for $40, the whole package is ours.

    Don't let it slide away, fearing the future, because Windows is still Windows, the brand that powers 90+% of the computers on the planet. Features have changed, we have a new look & feel, that's the way it is with anything worth buying. Anything stuck years in the past, with no new anything, it's not worth buying anyway.

    The really great thing, as Drew mentioned above, we get 6 months worth of professional support with this $40 purchase. It would cost more than that to call MS for support on a XP or Vista OS, one single time. The folks at MS is there for us, should we need them, & have always been.

    It's going to be no different here, if there is any, it's likely that we won't even need to call MS. There's going to be plenty of guidance, how-to articles, everything that we need to deploy Windows 8 Pro. And don't forget the Free Media Center addon.

    All of this for $40, more than a tank of gas for the most of us. Get it while you can!!

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