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    Default Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    Hi all,

    Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full and asks me to delete files. I checked. There is nearly half space on C drive. The problem is I cant neither download nor start apps, even i cant f8 or f2 or f12.

    Whats your opinion?

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    We have to know more. What are the specs of your PC? Make, model, CPU, Ram, HD etc.

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    Yes. We need more information. Which system you are installing, CP or RP? How large is your C drive? Total physical drive size?

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    Just a thought!

    What you think may be enough free space is not always what the OS is looking for.
    For instance, you must have at least 15% free space on C: for Defrag to work properly.

    There are many things people do (or don't do) that waste a tremendous amount of space on their hard drives.
    They let Hibernate create that HUGE Hiberfil Sys file in their root directory. I always disable Hibernate which gets rid of that monster.
    Then they run their computers for months or even years without ever deleting temporary files, TIF's and old emails, which just eat up HD space.

    When I do a tuneup for a new customer, it's nothing unusual for me to delete 100,000 junk files, or more.
    Cleaning out all the junk and then defragmenting a HD, can free up a tremendous amount of space.
    Old Restore points and MS Update files take up a lot of space too. They can all be deleted.

    Good Luck!
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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    I've ran CCleaner on some computers that were slow in general, some of which had 3+GB of useless old data on it. This data, if not kept cleaned on a routine basis (I do it nightly, before final shutdown of the day), can cause lots of issues, in particular, the computer becoming lethargic. After cleaning, the OS ran normally again.

    In addition to the user's daily use of the computer, which usually generates lots of Temporary Internet Files (TIF's as described above), there are also Temporary System Files, generated by installing apps, the larger the app, the more junk left behind. Also, Windows/MS Update leaves tons of files behind, similar to app installation, the updating process requires these files to install the updates.

    Especially after a clean install of Windows & installed apps, depending on the version installed (the older, the more updates/patches), it's easy to have 1+GB of leftover crap to clean up before defragging the HDD. After cleaning the junk on a new install, unless one has a SSD, defrag is required. I've found that Windows 8 handles this task on it's own fairly good, so far. Defrags as necessary, plus a scheduled one weekly.

    On Windows 7 & below, I use Perfect Disk for defrag, it does a fine job, plus there's the Boot Time defrag option, which should be used first, prior to the normal defrag, for best results. It's not quite Windows 8 ready yet.

    As the others have stated, we need more info in order to properly advise you. Sounds as though this is a small HDD (or "C" partition) that's jam packed, by what little info is available.

    Please post back with requested info, we'll see what we can do.

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    People are just basically lazy! Like it or not....that's just a fact.
    That's why I put a cleanup batch file in the start-up folder of every one of my customers.
    Ted and I both have talked about that at great length, right here on this very forum.

    Daily maintenance becomes a whole lot easier and less likely to be forgotten when you Automate it.
    If you're going to do the same thing, over and over, put it in a batch file or script.
    I've even added the Extended Disk Cleanup routine to the end of my Cleanup.bat program. That gets rid of the system garbage that my batch file does not address.

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    Where are the downloads for these batch files, or is it a command that we must create? I like the idea of "cleaning on steroids", one term I recall it being referred to.

    I've worked with the command line (terminal) when running Ubuntu/Mint, it's a necessity, if one wants total control over the OS, but not with Windows OS's. Except a few basic commands, such as sfc /scannow, chkdsk /r, as needed. No extensive use of the cmd panel.

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    A batch file is like a map to your bathroom. One map does not fit all.

    Write your own! The Cleanup batch file for my computer won't work on your computer anyway.
    Except for a few basic paths, every computer is different.
    By Basic Paths, I mean like this:

    @Echo off
    cls
    del /F /S /Q "%systemroot%\temp\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "%systemroot%\Prefetch\*.*"


    Beyond that, you need to find where the junk files are kept on your PC and enter those paths into similar/additional lines in the batch file. Be sure to put the paths inside closed quotes or the line will not execute.
    You can create or edit a batch file with either Wordpad or Notepad. It just must have the .bat extension, to run.

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    This is mine, yours will be different, but similar. You can also add additional paths as you see fit.

    @Echo off
    cls
    del /F /S /Q "%systemroot%\temp\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "%systemroot%\Prefetch\*.*"

    del /F /S /Q "C:\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\*. *"
    del /F /S /Q "C:\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "C:\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Low\Content.IE5\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "C:\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "C:\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Temporary Internet Files\Low\Content.IE5\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Temp\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "C:\Temp\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windo ws\Temporary Internet Files\Low\Content.IE5\*.*
    del /F /S /Q "C:\Users\%UserName%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windo ws\History\*.*

    ::Rem: No need to duplicate the following section for each registered User
    del /F /S /Q "%homepath%\Cookies\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "%homepath%\recent\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "%homepath%\Local Settings\cookies\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "%homepath%\Local Settings\History\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "%homepath%\Local Settings\Temp\*.*"
    del /F /S /Q "%homepath%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\*.*"
    cleanmgr /sagerun:99



    The first time you run this you have to include the following:

    cleanmgr /sageset:99

    Afterward you can remove that line.

    Copy this into Notepad, modify to make it your own (pathnames, etc) then save as Win8Clnup.bat

    You can then copy the batch file into the StartUp folder

    c, users, "User Name", appdata, roaming, Microsoft, Windows, Start Menu, Programs, StartUp

    Once the batch file is in the StartUp folder it will run once at boot. Leave the original someplace to make it convenient to run it manually when needed.

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    Default Re: Hard drive has space, but it keeps telling me that its full

    With the best laid batch file and even adding in Disk Cleanup on steroids and you've still only scratched the surface of the total amount of garbage that gets saved to your hard drive.

    There are several programs that have the ability to look into every file folder on the hard drive and put all the junk they find there into a master "Garbage List". Then on your command, all of those files can be deleted.

    The trick here is knowing what's junk and what file might be needed by some program. One miscalculation can result in some program being disabled or even Windows itself being corrupted.*

    * That happened to me twice, over several years, with one program touted to be the cat's meow in Cleanup programs. It corrupted my OS so bad that it would not even boot up. I had to do a Ghost restore to get my computer back.

    To develop a SAFE program that gets the junk but leave the good stuff, requires a programmer of exceedingly high intellect, maybe even a Super Computer.

    One program that I ran into many years ago now, that has always been SAFE, is "Easy Cleaner 2".
    It has many different apps to perform different operations on a PC. I won't go into all the apps but the "Remove Unnecessary Files" app is worth its weight in Gold. It lists all the Junk files, numbers them and then shows how many bytes will be saved by their removal. Just one click of the mouse performs the actual deletion.
    I've run it on several thousand PC's, of all brands, models, types and ages, going all the way back to windows 98, with never a mishap. Pretty neat for a FREE program, that's been around for over a decade. It has been optimized for Win-7 and works great on Win-8.

    Every one of my customers has been amazed by how many junk files were living on their hard drive, without them ever realizing it. Out of sight....out of mind. Eh?

    Just for grins and giggles, I put a file counter at the beginning and end of my 'XPCleanup.bat' (batch file) cleanup program, that I run on new customer's PC's, to count the number of files on the hard drive both before and after the cleanup and then calculate the actual number of files deleted. Again, it can be a real eye opener.

    Cheers mates! Keep it clean!
    TM

    Just for fun:
    I keep a pretty clean machine, but just for fun, I just now ran Easy Cleaner 2 on my own PC. It found 592 junk files, taking up 630 megs of HD space. EC2 deleted all but ten, that were Open files and not safe to delete.
    Last edited by TechnoMage; 08-07-2012 at 03:13 PM.
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