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    Default Removing Windows 8

    After a good trial of windows 8, I have decided to return back to my previous operating sysytem (Windows Vista Home premium 32bit)
    I created a full backup of my pc before upgrading. If I restore my pc now, will I get windows vista back? If not I have the product key on the base of my laptop, however I don't have a disc to install vista from as it was pre-installed. How can I get back to using vista home premium?

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    If you have a full backup of Vista, as you said, why are you even asking?
    What program did you use and how did you do the backup?
    Where did you save the backup image file?
    Have you Never done a restore before?

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoMage View Post
    If you have a full backup of Vista, as you said, why are you even asking?
    What program did you use and how did you do the backup?
    Where did you save the backup image file?
    Have you Never done a restore before?

    I used windows backup and restore centre, to back it up to an external hdd.
    No, I have never had to restore my pc as it has never needed it previously.
    So will it work?

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    How could we possibly know?

    If your backup/restore program is on the old OS, how do you plan on running the restore?
    You should have run your backup from a bootable media, like a CD or Flash drive, so if your HD with the backup program on it totally crashed, you could boot up with your Backup/Restore CD and then run the Restore program to write the Backup file to a new HD.
    You're in a similar position when you allowed W8 to overwrite your previous, legal, OS.

    Ideally, you should have made a Recovery CD, with the Backup/Restore program on it.
    Most good backup software like Acronis True Image or Ghost, will make the Recovery disk for you.
    Then you boot up with the Recovery CD to make your backup to an external HD, or second internal HD.
    When the backup is complete, there should be a Check or Verify option, to assure that your new backup is good and can be read for a restore.
    Then the acid test is to do an immediate restore.

    So I'm at a loss, to know how you're going to run your restore program. ???

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    Windows backup is a program on all windows computers from vista onwards, and so is on windows 8 rp (which is what I am running now) I am confused. Does a backup run using the windows backup centre take a backup of the operating system?

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    Therein lies a problem.

    If it doesn't, then it's not much of a backup program, is it?

    But I would never trust MS to back up my hard drive. For 15 years, I've been using Ghost, in several different versions, for all my backups. It runs in DOS, from a DOS boot disk, totally bypassing Windows.
    I can make a backup of a hard drive that won't even boot, to preserve data files.
    I can also CLONE one drive to another, like, to install a larger HD for my OS boot disk.

    So now, you have Win-8 and your backup program was on Win-? (whatever). How are you going to run the Restore program?

    It's possible you may have shot yourself in the foot, so to speak.

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    The Windows Backup and Restore is somewhat limited. You actually have to be able to boot into the OS to use this Image. It does not work without a boot Rescue Disk after you have switched OS's. That's why we recommend using a 3rd party Imaging app and creating the included Rescue Boot Disk to allow just what you would like to do.

    Without the Rescue Disk created from Win Vista, you are probably out of luck. If you did create a Rescue Boot disk you should be able to use it to Restore your Image.

    If you have the original Installation Disk (Vista) you can boot to this disk, then when the installation windows opens choose Repair my PC. One of the options is to use a previously created Image. Without an Installation Disk or a Rescue (Repair) disk you most likely can't go back.

    Perhaps you know someone who will allow you to create a Rescue Disk, or already has a Rescue Disk. You might even be able to use a Win 7 disk, as long as you can get to the Repair my computer option. The Win 8 repair/restore system has changed and will not work for this.

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    Thanks for the help, I'll be sure to not trust microsoft again :/

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    Default Re: Removing Windows 8

    It's definitely not MS in this case. For Imaging, the worst case is when the PC will not boot. In this case you NEED a Rescue Disk to allow the PC to boot so you can attempt to Restore. When you overwrite an OS with a new OS, it is a similar scenario. To go back to the old OS, you must have a Rescue Boot Disk.

    This is the case whether you are using Win 7 Backup and Restore or a 3rd party Imaging app. The Win 7 offering is more basic in that you are limited in many things you can do, but the basic restoration process is the same as any Imaging app.

    We, and MANY others, have issued many precautions on installing Win 8 over a licensed OS. We have repeated often, Do Not Do It! We have often advised people to learn the correct way to create an Image and restore from that Image before doing any installing of a new OS. The same precaution would hold true when creating a dual boot setup.

    You will see many places where both TM and myself as well as other say, "After you create an Image you must ensure it works by restoring that Image you just created." The proper way to restore an Image is by using a Rescue Boot Disk.

    I go further with my 3rd party Imaging app. I create my Image using the Rescue Boot Disk as well. In this way I know there can be NO interference from the OS while doing so.

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