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    Default Cannot Find the Windows 8 Local Security Policy Editor(Secpol.msc)?

    A common problem is that some people using Windows 8 cannot find Local Security Policy Editor. In fact, Gpedit in Windows 7 has been changed into Secpol in Windows 8. Secpol controls the security subset of local group policies.

    Now I will show you how to launch the local security policy to change your security setting.

    1. Click on the Start orb, and in the search dialog box type: secpol.msc
    Note: Remember to type the .msc file extension, otherwise Windows 8 can't find the snap-in.

    2. When secpol.msc appears in the search results, consider creating a shortcut by right-clicking and choosing either 'Pin to Taskbar', or 'Pin to Start Menu'.

    3. Navigating through the security settings is as easy as finding files and folders with Windows Explorer.

    If you have Active Directory then you don't need Secpol because you can use the GPMC (Group Policy Management Console) on the domain controller. However, if you are checking or configuring security settings on a Windows 8 computer in a Workgroup or HomeGroup then you need the Local Security Editor - secpol.msc.

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    Default Re: Cannot Find the Windows 8 Local Security Policy Editor(Secpol.msc)?

    I am sorry. I can type in secpol.msc in windows 8 pro but not in windows 8 that came with my Dell Inspiron 15r. I upgrade my Thinkpad x220 to windows 8 pro and I can access secpol.msc as well as gpedit.msc. I can do neither in the plain jane windows 8 that came with my Dell. Is this another ploy to get me to update to windows 8 pro.

    Edit, after more searching, I see that Windows 8 does not have group policy. Will be contacting Dell to return the Laptop.
    Last edited by aquaholik; 12-21-2012 at 10:39 AM.

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    Default Re: Cannot Find the Windows 8 Local Security Policy Editor(Secpol.msc)?

    I've noticed that the majority of new Windows 8 computers sold online & at brick & mortar retailers ships with the Plain Jane style of Windows 8 (non-Pro). Even many in the $1,500 to $2,000 range, loaded with high end hardware (true quad core i7's & up to 4GB GDDR5 video cards).

    Why is that? The OEM's works together with MS to install "home" versions on computers intended for non-business users, this brings additional revenue MS's way by the sale of "Anytime Upgrade" versions. In the case of Windows 7 & Vista, one could purchase a key from the MS Store (& other retailers, both online & retail). You then enter the key via the Start Menu option "Windows Anytime Upgrade" & within minutes, your OS is upgraded. This is how I got 7 Pro on my notebook & 7 Ultimate on my desktop. I wanted XP Mode for testing purposes, & one must have 7 Pro or above to get it.

    More than likely, Windows 8 works the same way, there is a Pro & Pro Plus Pack (Pro Plus includes Media Center), those who upgrades from 8 to 8 Pro can still get Media Center for free. Therefore, no need to buy Pro Plus, just get the Pro upgrade. But it does take up to a week (though the site says 72 hours) to receive your Free Media Center key. So if you want your Media Center right then & now, spend the extra for Pro Pack. There are better Media Center options than WMC, if the user had to pay full price, but that's beyond the scope of this thread.

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    That Security Policy Editor was also missing from the Starter, Home Basic & Home Premium versions of Windows 7. So are other features.

    The fact is, all of these features are included in all versions of Windows 7 & probably Windows 8. The user simply needs a key to "unlock" them. This is one reason why the 350MB System Partition (100MB, for W7) must be not removed, if one tries to upgrade to a higher edition, it won't go through until the OS is reinstalled & that partition intact. I found this out when upgrading my desktop from 7 Home Premium to Ultimate.

    One great thing about these type of upgrades, no formatting is required & other than the OS upgrade, nothing is changed. It's still good practice to backup the computer prior to upgrading, as this is a major change. I've never heard of this type of upgrade messing up a computer, but who wants to be the first?

    And if you pay Dell to install the Pro & Media Center for you, it will cost a lot more than if you do it. Probably at least $100 to $150 more, they make profit off this too. Thing is, the Big OEM's gets these keys for less than we do, one is doing themselves a huge favor by upgrading their own.

    HP wanted $250 up upgrade my OS to Ultimate, I bought the same upgrade from Newegg (a boxed COA) on promo for $99 & done it myself inside of 5 minutes. This gave me the money to upgrade my RAM to the max & had money left over (from the $250 that HP wanted).

    Millions of other new Windows 8 computer owners are doing this themselves at huge savings over what the OEM's charges. This includes RAM upgrades. Why pay the OEM up to $350 for 16GB RAM (8GB x2) when Newegg & other suppliers has the same on promo for as low as $65, with $80 being the median promo? Worse yet, the OEM keeps your original RAM chips & sells them again, w/no credit towards your upgrade. The customer loses both on both ends.

    Most anyone can do these things in minutes, with little skill involved & save tons of cash.

    I only wished that I knew these things 25 years ago, when I was still 25 years of age.

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    Default Re: Cannot Find the Windows 8 Local Security Policy Editor(Secpol.msc)?

    Seems to be here Local Security Policy Admin tools > local security policy

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    Default Re: Cannot Find the Windows 8 Local Security Policy Editor(Secpol.msc)?

    Does this apply to the non-Pro versions also? The Windows 2000 versions were Professional (or above) versions. I had Windows 2000 Pro, it was the lowest of the 2 or 3 versions available. That was also around 12 years ago, & that was the OS installed on my first computer (in 2000), though I had used computers on the job since the early 90's.

    Though there were many critics of the OS, it was my default OS until SP2 for XP was released, then I began dual booting.

    Seems that this same topic arose with Windows 7 Home Premium a year or so back, the OP of that one was told to upgrade to Pro or above to have access to the feature. There's a few more settings that requires Pro or above to use.

    It's likely the same with Windows 8. Those type of settings falls in line with Professional versions or higher. Typical home users doesn't fool with that stuff, many doesn't even know what it is, nor what it's for.

    At the time this thread began, this OS was Windows 8 CP. Same as Windows 8 Pro, just that it was in it's first consumer preview, & no WMC (this was introduced after 8 RP was released). There were no "Plain Jane" previews, they were full featured ones, this is why the OP's info was correct at that time & still is now on 8 Pro/Enterprise, & those who are rapidly running out of time running 8 CP/RP. Come 3 weeks, the lights will be turned out on those previews.

    And for all who buys new Windows 8 computers & wants a full featured one, make the move to 8 Pro while it's on promo. These type of features/controls & much more is included.

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    Default Re: Cannot Find the Windows 8 Local Security Policy Editor(Secpol.msc)?

    my guess is that the non-pro win 8 does not have this snapin. I have a few win 8 installs but none of them afaik are the (not so called but that's what it seems to be) Home Version.

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