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    Default Re: which style you prefer - Classic style and Metro style

    No doubts, I prefer the Classic Style.

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    Default Re: which style you prefer - Classic style and Metro style

    Quote Originally Posted by catilley1092 View Post
    Classic Style all the way. No doubt that Windows 8.1 is going to have that & a good possibility of reintroducing the Start Menu.

    All of this "Modern" stuff looks too "Appleish" to me. It's not what MS has made their money on & forcing it down all of it's customer's throats is exactly why Windows 8 sales are stale. Many current Windows 7 users will be still running it until the year 2020, long after 8 is forgotten.

    MS is setting itself up for one huge failure, hopefully Windows 8.1 is going to address all of their customer's concerns, then sales will resume.

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    The Start screen is the start menu however, one can choose not to use that. Everything (ALL Applications; Start, Store & non-Store) can be accessed via a conventional window display residing on the Taskbar if, one so chooses.

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    Default Re: which style you prefer - Classic style and Metro style

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackerry View Post
    Metro style, visual
    Jack (maybe that's your name, lol),

    Certainly you are far from unique... like there are countless people who like the contemporary Start screen; many find what it can do & or what can be done w/ it & 'active'/live Tiles very funky & cool. The number of people liking it will probably increase, too, as it becomes to known & accepted norm and as more people get used to it & how to use & appreciate it.

    Personally, I think w/ Windows 8.1 many Users will opt for the Boot to Desktop option/setting, now, available. BUT, from there or even initially, I think many will prefer having Boot OR the Windows button (so-called Start button) taking them to the ALL Applications screen (Win+Q). It definitely has always been my choice, although, I view its content w/out ever changing screens or leaving Desktop in Windows 8 or 8.1.

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    Yes, Cat, no matter what some naysayers have TRIED to say... Windows 8 is definitely more efficient to use that any prior Windows OS. Easier, more direct, less digging, less mousing, fewer clicks, less 'looking' for stuff, so to speak. Things are far more @ one's fingertips than ever before.

    I, too, will boot to desktop... that's where I live, anyway, so...

    As I have joked... how wonderful it will be not to endure the ordeal of hitting Enter anymore, LOL. Though, even w/ the Preview I, still, prefer having the (ALL) Applications on the Taskbar, instead of using Win+Q (the ALL APPs screen) or actually changing screens to go to something.

    I've sure I've told you & everyone how to create that.

    Lastly, of course, there must be a good foundation 1st. I will always remember back in the days of XP when SP1 came out... people trying to say, don't install it, things don't work after, you'll have problems, it breaks things, blah, blah, blah. When you went to get it, it clearly had "What to do before installing SP1." Nobody was reading it or that. They'd put it in or on 'dirty', messed up systems and then, sooner or later, it would come back to bite them. There was nothing bad about SP1. Just needed a good foundation upon which to build. That concept will always remain.

    I do use some of those same Store APPs, Calendar, Weather; difference is I open them, leave them on the APP Bar & just click on them whenever I want to look @ one or do something w/ one... rather than poking @ Tiles on the Start screen each time. Not a right or wrong, just different approaches. Nice having more than one way for things.

    Only 4 days to go

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    Default Re: which style you prefer - Classic style and Metro style

    for the moment I prefer Classic windows. buu hard to say in the future.

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    You know, as I think about this, not really sure what y'all mean by "Classic vs Metro", actually. And no I'm not trying to be a smart-alec.

    Some months ago 'Metro' was a term being used in reference to Windows Start screen and its Tiles. I guess, the term 'Classic' is being used to refer to something of pre-Windows 8 Operating systems.

    But, to try to talk about one vs the other makes little sense (to me). IF its based on some sort of attitude against the Windows 8 style of things...

    1, There is no obligation to use the Win8 Start screen
    2. Its really a matter of 'that was then, this is now'

    Windows 8 is not something pre-Win8. The attempt at comparing one to the other eludes me. We used to eat oranges, now we eat apples. But, so what? Things change & so have Operating Systems. But, so what? Computing & how we do things have & will change. So what? Things change...

    Planes have changed, Cars have changed. Record players, TVs, cameras, the list goes on... lots changes in life & technology. So what?

    And considering the approach to navigating a computer Operating System is better and easier in Windows 8 than before it eludes me why we would even care what was before since, what is NOW is better, anyway,

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    From Drew: "
    Some months ago 'Metro' was a term being used in reference to Windows Start screen and its Tiles. I guess, the term 'Classic' is being used to refer to something of pre-Windows 8 Operating systems.

    But, to try to talk about one vs the other makes little sense (to me). IF its based on some sort of attitude against the Windows 8 style of things..."

    Imo, that is the punch line. Partly MS' fault, but since its introduction, Microsoft have not positively stepped into the breach with a solid explanation.
    There is, almost across the board, a reference/comparison, between "Classic" (sometimes other names such as "Legacy" and Metro/Modern.
    Classic is a desktop. Within that desktop is a buried start menu.
    Modern is a start menu, already for action on the (for want of a name) opening screen.
    There are many users who have, in the past, placed an array of shortcuts on the desktop, or, for that matter, taskbar. I even have one in the family with both. He has 65 available shortcuts. All though, in his daily life, he is a computer technologist, he will not see the better convenience of using the modern start menu.
    It is understandable.
    I would not have any requirement for such a large number of shortcuts, in my everyday usage. Nor would my son, were he honest with himself.
    I have customised my Modern to 42 Icons. Even there, several are maintenance items such as Defrag, which I use infrequently. But, after many experiments, I compromised as to what was obtainable with one swipe across the screen.
    Works for me.
    I confess, though, to using Modernmix, as my main programs are all earlier legacies, and open on the classic desktop. I personally find the program more convenient for multi-tasking, than the Windows 8/8.1 method.

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    I would like the say a bit on the heels of what David has said...

    1 is in regard to Desktops I have seen on many clients (customers) computers since I am an IT Pro, prior to Windows 8/8.1 and the use of 'shortcuts' David mentioned. I will, also, combine this w/ the use keeping or having a list of previously used items (programs) on the pre-Win8 start menu. So...

    #1. Desktop shortcuts are not the program but, mere a sign post to them. They are, sort of a convenience not, a necessity. Often I have seen a Desktop literally covered w/ these things, as well as things like folders, images, installers & more, all sitting on the Desktop. This is usually from people who, really, don't have a clue how to use a computer. The Desktop is not a storage location. It is not the place for folders, installers or images... can be but, shouldn't be use that way. Named folders belong on the HDD and images , installers, et al placed in them for the sake of some logical organization. There are, also, things like a Documents folder, Pictures folder, Downloads folder, aside from any User created (New) folders. Yet, people (used to) often throw everything on the Desktop & cover the screen and maybe a pretty wallpaper w/ 'stuff'. Sometimes I have put things, for them, in sensible places & actually, removed 95+% of the icons they had. In fact, and certainly, once Pinning to Taskbar became available, one could either have a few frequently used things on the Desktop or Pin them to the Taskbar BUT, between Pinning & the old start menu (& ALL Programs) nothing needed to show on the Desktop.

    2. Then, there was that, Temporary, list of previously used stuff on the old start menu. Not talking about the permanent things @ the top, like IE but, the dumb, list under the grey line. This list would add & show anything & everything that had been ever used or touched and it would just keep growing & growing & be redundant & unnecessary & confusing. I would always set it so that list did not show or accumulate.

    OK, that said, let's move on to the intelligent beauty & progression to Windows 8 & then to 8.1

    Win8 has 2 screens besides the Desktop screen. Desktop, Start & ALL Applications.
    Desktop:
    Can one, still, throw items & shortcuts all over it? Yes but, see #1 above.
    Can things be Pinned to its Taskbar? YES.
    Things can, also, be Pinned to Start.
    Do icons NEED to show on the Desktop? NO. Between Pinning and using the Desktop Toolbar nothing needs to be showing on top of the Desktop screen.

    Start:
    Highly customizable and able to be 'personalized'. This applies to sizing Tiles, arranging/placement of Tiles & Grouping Tiles & naming said Groups. Many Tiles are 'Active' or live & show (recent) content & changes in real-time. Frequently used things can be here. And, as mentioned, anything can be Pinned to here. Does any thing, actually, NEED to show on Start? Besides the Desktop Tile, NO. There can be as much or as little as one wants, chooses or deems necessary or desired, in terms of Tiles showing... The Tiles are, indeed, 'shortcuts'. Can the Win8 Start be fun, funky, interesting & well used? YES.

    ALL Applications:
    This is the equivalent of what can be referred to as ALL Programs. The difference here being it reflects not only installed software, utilities but, also, items embedded or native to the OS AND Store APPs. It, also, has anything is or could be, on Start. Ergo, one could use it & not Start. However, unlike Start, it shows everything not, just, preferred & frequent use things, as Start does (or can).

    Now, based on the idea that Desktop is the preferred workspace, obviously, if one is there getting to Start or ALL Applications means changing screens. As an aside, I will state, there is a way to avoid that by having an Applications Folder/Window on the Taskbar.

    But, this leads me to talking about Windows 8.1

    NOW, one can boot directly to Desktop. Thereby, not seeing Start, @ all, certainly not initially. So, there is CHOICE... work on Desktop with its icons (or w/out them showing using Desktop Toolbar) and Pin things to the Taskbar.

    NOW, a Windows key button has been placed on the Taskbar. This will take one to the Start when & if one feels a need or a want to go there. But, NOW, also, that can be set so it takes one to the ALL Applications screen.

    Additionally, throw into the mix that open Active APPs can & do sit on the Switcher Bar (Top-Left Corner) and can be accessed & controlled from there @ whim. Plus, Charms Bar & (very much) the Power Users menu when one Rt Clks @ the Bottom-Left Corner... this one I think few realize exists & is EXTREMELY important to know & use.

    One can easily toggle back & forth between Desktop, Start & ALL Applications screens.

    The point here to which, both David & I are speaking is the immense convenience, customization, personalization, flexibility and ease of navigation that exists in Windows 8.1

    When the above is used in whole or in part or in combination AND understood the User Experience is and can be absolutely sweet! And much better and vastly improved to what it was prior to Windows 8.1 or even prior to Windows 8.

    Cheers,
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    The Metro style seems pretty nice. Easier on the eyes, I think.

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    classic all the way.

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