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threeone
09-26-2012, 12:37 AM
Start Menu 8 V 4.0.2.1 available now
Bringing back the Classic Windows® “Start” menu

The Best Start Menu Replacement for Windows 8

Start Menu 8 is a desktop customized utility for Windows users, specifically designed to bring back the familiar Classic Start Menu to Windows 8/8.1 & Windows 10. It offers a convenient and simple solution to freely switch between the latest Window 10 start menu and Windows Classic Start Menu. It also provides multiple start menus for Windows 7/Vista/XP. With the improved searching engine, you can quickly and easily access your apps and files from start menu. Start Menu 8 allows more customization with just a few clicks, which provides the options to skip Modern UI & Welcome on Windows 8.1 and customize your taskbar any way you like on Windows 10.

What's new

+ Fully supported the latest Windows 10 version to perfectly switch between Windows Classic Start Menu and Windows 10 Start Menu
+ Smoother Start Menu launch with much less system resource usage for better customer experience
+ Added Update Automatically feature to get the latest version more quickly and conveniently
+ Optimized search engine for more comprehensive and faster results
* Fixed the bug of auto-minimizing open windows on some Windows 10 system
* Fixed the occasional failure of launching Start Menu on Windows 10
* Supported 37 languages
* And more can be discovered by you

1. Send your Feedback

- E-mail us your suggestions or comments directly: feedback@iobit.com (feedback@iobit.com)
- Join discussion on our forums (http://www.forumswindows8.com/start-menu-8/)

The top 10 most valuable beta contributors will be given a Special Present. And their names will be printed in the StartMenu Final version.

2. Share Start Menu 8 with your families, friends, and colleagues

- Share on Facebook (http://www.iobit.com/goto.php?id=startmenu8fbshare)
- Share on Twitter (http://www.iobit.com/goto.php?id=startmenu8twshare)
- Share on Google+ (https://plus.google.com/109991992304823387411)

3. Download Free

FREE DOWNLOAD (http://update.iobit.com/dl/sm8-setup.exe?ref=forumwindows8)

Operating System:

Windows 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 8, also Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP

Any other minimum requirements:
1GHz processor or faster processor
1GB (32bit)/ 2GB (64bit) of RAM
16GB (32bit)/ 20GB (64bit) of free hard disk space
DirectX9 graphics device with WDDM

4. Key Benefits

More OS Supported, include Windows 10, Windows 8.1, Windows 8, also Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP
Supported fast search items from whole disk no matter whether they are indexed
Displayed recently opened items under documents, browsers, etc. in Start Menu
Added the function "Pin to Start Menu (Start Menu 8)" when right click an item
FREE and award- winning customer support for all users.

5. Functions:

Add start menu for Windows 8.1, Windows 8
Replace start menu for Windows 7, Windows Vista and Windows XP
Supported fast search items from whole disk
Displayed recently opened items under documents, browsers, etc
Right-click any item can pin to Start Menu (Start Menu 8)
Automatically sync user picture and Account picture
Supported restart in Safe Mode for Windows 8 and Windows 8.1
"Small font & Large font" function
Access to the usually used applications
"Deactivate hotkeys” when full-screen task is detected
Fast "Switch to Metro" function
Provide Multiple options for "Power button settings"
Added multiple language files
Improved user interface
Improved "Settings"

6. Screenshot
http://www.iobit.com/pad/startmenu8-main.png

catilley1092
09-26-2012, 08:43 PM
threeone, is this the same app, or a different one? I don't want to get the wrong one, & this one looks a lot different from the one here.

Windows 8 Start Menu (http://www.startmenu8.com/index.html)

Cat

threeone
09-26-2012, 09:27 PM
Hi Cat,

Thanks for attention. No, they are different apps. This StartMenu8 is developed by IObit (http://www.iobit.com), a top software vender. StartMenu8 Beta available soon. I will post once download available.

catilley1092
09-26-2012, 09:43 PM
Thanks for making this clear, threeone. I'll wait for the one pictured above. IObit is a top software vendor, they also have some security apps.

The other wasn't really that much different from Start Menu 7, the first one that I tried. It didn't stay on my OS for long.

Cat

johnwerneken
09-27-2012, 11:17 AM
startmenuX and startbuttonX are similar, I have them and love them.

Ktr1sk
09-29-2012, 10:54 AM
Thanks for your program, I hope that it will be even better (the one pictured above is missing) and I was wondering whether it will ever be free or will be paid version?

catilley1092
09-29-2012, 06:35 PM
So far, so good! Seems that I'm on Windows 7, this is an good alternative for those wanting a Start Menu. Now we have another option. Will continue to use it to view it's progress.

I also realize this is still in Beta, Sleep puts the PC in a deeper one than the same in 7 does. More like Hibernation, but that's OK. My wife & I share the same mouse pad, for another week or so. Every time she uses her notebook, she manages to wake up my PC by bumping my mouse, or moving it out of her way. This type of sleep prevents this.

A decent app for an unfinished one. Hopefully MS won't sue for copyright infringement.

Cat

johnwerneken
09-29-2012, 09:36 PM
also startbuttoX and startmenuX, more or less the same result, happily working since shortly after win8 DP was released on my system.

ramsa
10-02-2012, 03:20 AM
Russian language

edited out Russian Language version.

Edit: Please send feedback to threeone using the link provided in Post #1. Do not add attachments with other languages here. Thanks. Ted

Wirbelwind
10-02-2012, 08:05 AM
Thanks, i use it, and I advice to other !

But if we modify the "ressources" folder nothings appear ...
also, i d'ont very understand the tip with the language file ^^

Sorry, I'm french 1197

irfnsnck
10-02-2012, 10:12 AM
This is my Turkish (Türkçe) translation, I hope it will be useful.


Edit: Please send feedback to threeone using the link provided in Post #1. Do not add attachments with other languages here. Thanks. Ted

BassHunter
10-04-2012, 02:05 AM
Hello, I think that the program may impose. It would only be good as speedily as possible and other language versions. A lot of people will appreciate the possibility to turn off the Metro

Nikolay
10-06-2012, 11:33 AM
The app is very good indeed. Feel and look like windows 7. As it's still in beta, I'll point out what I've found till now - some programs are missing from the start menu (adobe reader, aida64, ashampoo burning studio and my hp software).
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catilley1092
10-06-2012, 07:26 PM
It is speedy, most of the apps that I'm using from it shows, but as Nikolay points out above, some empty folders. However, at this time, it's a minor thing.

I still like the look of Windows 7 that it gives me, & it seems more stable than when I installed it. Thanks for the additional option for us to explore.

Cat

Medico
10-07-2012, 03:47 AM
I have edited out the language translations. This is too easy of a way for spammers, scammers, phishers to gain access to our members PC's. This download is an executable. We do NOT want to encourage our members to download possible Malware from our site.

All these translations should be sent to beta-feedback@iobit.com (beta-feedback@iobit.com) for vetting prior to be included, then should be included on the IOBit web site, not here.

Cell_7
10-09-2012, 09:15 AM
Very cool and with no bugs yet! The thing that I don't really like is that when I click it there is a half a second or even a second delay for the bar, is this going to be any faster in other version? :$

catilley1092
10-09-2012, 08:28 PM
Today, several times, the icon disappeared entirely. May be that it's an app still in beta, but thought it would be notable to report. Will be a con to some users.

Moving the mouse over to the area restored the icon.

Cat

threeone
10-11-2012, 05:49 PM
The app is very good indeed. Feel and look like windows 7. As it's still in beta, I'll point out what I've found till now - some programs are missing from the start menu (adobe reader, aida64, ashampoo burning studio and my hp software).
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Welcome to Windows 8 Forums and thanks for feedback, Nikolay. I have sent to the IObit.

threeone
10-15-2012, 01:29 AM
Thanks for your program, I hope that it will be even better (the one pictured above is missing) and I was wondering whether it will ever be free or will be paid version?

Hi Ktr1sk,

Thanks for feedback. Its a freeware.

threeone
10-15-2012, 01:32 AM
Very cool and with no bugs yet! The thing that I don't really like is that when I click it there is a half a second or even a second delay for the bar, is this going to be any faster in other version? :$

Hi Cell_7,

Welcome to Windows 8 Forums. This is known issue and IObit would fix it in next version. Thanks for feedback.

KingStorm
10-17-2012, 07:56 AM
i have found a "bug", you might want to change it
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johnwerneken
10-17-2012, 02:08 PM
lol and add characters till I get 10 grrr

ThanhDr
10-21-2012, 09:32 PM
Have downloaded it.So far so good!

johnwerneken
10-21-2012, 10:44 PM
cool! feel free to ask for help if you have issues.

spyszkola
10-23-2012, 03:38 PM
it takes a second or two to show the profile picture
the shutdown button becomes black when you search for something from within the start menu
add more icons - the windows 7 one doesn't suit windows 8
no option to remove an item from start menu

sguilly
10-24-2012, 06:40 AM
Would be good to have the RUN command option moved to the main Start Menu, as per Win7.

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spyszkola
10-24-2012, 09:42 AM
you cant search for items located in the control panel

Medico
10-24-2012, 10:14 AM
Sorry, but personally I like Classic Shell better. It gives more customization options.

Panda X
10-26-2012, 08:43 AM
Any chance this application will support theming? i.e. using the images and layout properties in the msstyles file?

bruiserdor
10-26-2012, 03:35 PM
thanks so much I really like the ability to switch back to tile menu by holding the Win button :)

meangene
10-26-2012, 04:32 PM
Thank you I was worried that the start menu was gone forever.

klink
10-27-2012, 02:47 PM
After i have install StartMenu8, the keyboard arrow key left does not work anymore. If i remove StartMenu8 the arrow key work again.

ezteok
10-27-2012, 03:17 PM
After i have install StartMenu8, the keyboard arrow key left does not work anymore. If i remove StartMenu8 the arrow key work again.

Same here; exit StartMenu8 and the left key is working again, starting StartMenu8 and the left does not work anymore.

Ezteok

Medico
10-27-2012, 04:21 PM
If this one app does not work as expected try another. Classic Shell works great for me.

ezteok
10-27-2012, 11:31 PM
If this one app does not work as expected try another. Classic Shell works great for me.

True, but this the StartMenu8 feedback page is'nt it?

Ezteok

johnwerneken
10-28-2012, 12:43 PM
Gave up on StartMenu8 a release or two of win8 ago. StartmenuX does not SEEM to have those problems (same idea different implementation) Start Menu X (http://www.startmenux.com/index.html)

rrroach
10-28-2012, 04:35 PM
Can we get the menu to be stylized like Windows 8 is? i.e., no more gloss like Vista and W7 had, but instead a matte style to everything. Also, I think it'd be great to allow user an option to press the Windows key to go back to the Metro interface. I do like having the start key in desktop mode, but its current implementation doesn't allow for switching between that and the Metro UI with ease!

johnwerneken
10-28-2012, 04:50 PM
Whatever on startmenu8, as noted, I prefer startmenux.

TO GET FFOM METRO or whatever the interface formerly known as metro is to be termed, or from there to desktop: WIN+W or WIN+X., respectively.

rrroach
10-28-2012, 04:54 PM
Whatever on startmenu8, as noted, I prefer startmenux.

TO GET FFOM METRO or whatever the interface formerly known as metro is to be termed, or from there to desktop: WIN+W or WIN+X., respectively.

Before installing the start menu, it was possible to press only the Windows key to switch between desktop and Metro UI.

roy_aluis
10-28-2012, 05:47 PM
Thanks for attention.

johnwerneken
10-28-2012, 06:43 PM
it may still be in won8 shipping with startmenuX; I'm in win7 now can't check it for you lol

spyszkola
10-30-2012, 10:51 AM
updated today to the new beta
+
the font looks clearer and better
search is better, includes control panel items etc
-
profile picture still takes 1 second to appear
needs better"windows search integration (searching for files through the taskbar)
searching currently shows unnecessary items (eg. type "pr" and besides printing and other normal choices, you see some system files)

edit:
menu doesn't disappear after i click something
eg. i type "system" and click the System icon. The window opens but the start menu doesn't close.

Drew
11-01-2012, 11:24 PM
By the way, as I see the gist of this thread, it's fitting to mention and have folks aware of the following.

Please, realize that adding things like Classic Shell, Start8, et al, this ikl is absolutely a matter of personal desire whilst mechanically unnecessary. Please, be aware that Windows 8 can & does function quite handily w/out such additions... know that they are options not, obligatory to have or use. A person may think or feel they are wanted but, the Operating System does not need them.

Cheers,
Drew
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klink
11-02-2012, 05:42 AM
Please, be aware that Windows 8 can & does function quite handily w/out such additions... know that they are options not, obligatory to have or use. A person may think or feel they are wanted but, the Operating System does not need them.

Without StartMenu is Windows 8 a bunch of crap!

Medico
11-02-2012, 07:47 AM
It is not. It works fine. You just have to customize it to work for you. Everything we have discussed in these threads in many cases are ways to customize Win 8. My tutorial here (http://www.forumswindows8.com/tutorials/windows-8-tutorails-how-upgrade-windows-8-pro-upgrade-steps-8179.htm)just puts a few of them in easy to use format

Drew
11-02-2012, 12:11 PM
"Windows 8 a bunch of crap!" Actually, as Ted said & I'll 2nd it & many, many others realise it, also, it is quite the opposite. It works extremely well, w/ OR W/OUT a minor amount of customization. It is simply a matter of 'understanding' 8, how it works & is used to discover & know the true reality that it is NOT "crap", @ all, even w/out the old start menu, introduced in Windows 95 & existing through & until Windows 7. Windows 8 suffers in no way, @ all, from doing things differently. If anything, an improvement.

Cheers,
Drew
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johnwerneken
11-02-2012, 03:05 PM
@Drew thanks for the post, it's quite true. From the Interface formerly Known As Metro, or the 'Desktop', Win-X brings up a top-menu for the old method that works quite well, essentially what the add-ins do, without the occasional vomiting one gets with OS bolt-ons. Except for executable search. But Tiles and the tile-interface search BOTH work better than either the old Desktop Icon approach or the old start menu. It is just another windows after all - almost every blessed thing good and not is still there, with a ton of new stuff both good and bad added.

The down side is almost entirely that it is DIFFERENT so it costs to learn, some way or another. The upsides are numerous, starting with MS commitment to it; haven't seen them so fanatical about BACKING a product since the browser wars (for the same reason, corporate survival lol). Then there is speed stability fewer resources to run it. A CAT can operate Metro aps, I've seen it! Any human with eyes and fingers can run it!

One can mount drives such as iso files, the built in virtual machine is now server grade. The darn drive letters even stop swapping around. ALL the Microsoft Office aps load faster run faster, noticeably so.

AND THE BIGGIE: it is INTENDED to be applicable to ANY computing device, period. AND enabling cloud-based portable user experience is baked in. Think about it: train once, never again! Universal compatibility at least for the basics. WOW. I bet it cost them as much as the Apollo Program lol.


By the way, as I see the gist of this thread, it's fitting to mention and have folks aware of the following.

Please, realize that adding things like Classic Shell, Start8, et al, this ikl is absolutely a matter of personal desire whilst mechanically unnecessary. Please, be aware that Windows 8 can & does function quite handily w/out such additions... know that they are options not, obligatory to have or use. A person may think or feel they are wanted but, the Operating System does not need them.

Cheers,
Drew
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klink
11-05-2012, 09:24 AM
After i have install StartMenu8, the keyboard arrow key left does not work anymore. If i remove StartMenu8 the arrow key work again.

Last update fixed this.

Drew
11-05-2012, 10:22 AM
All so very true, John. and klink's entry is a case in point; instead of worrying about 3ra party things that "don't work" & need updates maybe know they are not needed, in the 1st place.

Cheers,
Drew
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catilley1092
11-05-2012, 02:49 PM
Without StartMenu is Windows 8 a bunch of crap! That's your opinion, & you're entitled to it. But if this one app makes Windows 8 a "bunch of crap", then you either need more practice, or revert to the previous OS that you were running. This app still needs a lot of work to be stable.

I gave up on this when I clean installed Windows 8 Pro, it was too buggy for my preferences. Too many empty folders were apps were supposed to be. The Sleep option caused 8 RP to hibernate, rather than a normal sleep (known as "Stand By" to many). If it were a VM for testing purposes, I may would have kept it, but 8 Pro isn't one of my test beds, it's my daily OS on my main desktop. And may become so on my notebook also, I still have to decide on that.

IObit is looking to duplicate a Windows 7 Start Menu, which is obvious. Whether or not it's successful, time will tell.

Cat

Medico
11-06-2012, 02:14 AM
I'm still sold on Classic Shell, sorry IOBit.

maou
11-08-2012, 08:36 PM
It looks like Windows 7 start menu. I have been used to Windows 8, so I will not consider this tool, although this tool is cool.

johnwerneken
11-08-2012, 08:46 PM
StartMenuX is rather not like win7 although it has the elements of it, arranged rather more elegantly.

Drew
11-08-2012, 09:02 PM
Originally Posted by klink View Post

"Without StartMenu is Windows 8 a bunch of crap!"

Ummm, NO but, the thought, suggestion & statement are a bunch of crap.

Windows 8 works beautifully w/out the old start menu. And that holds true whether the new graphical Start menu (Tiles) is used or not. Nor (Ted, I know you hate me saying this) does it need any old start menu replacements added to work beautifully, either. Not since I first began using Windows 8 over 9 months ago has there ever, even at the onset, been any kind of suffering, agony, impediment or sense of loss regarding the old start menu. Use & navigation, with Win8 'out of the box' is not only enjoyable, easy & fast, it is better than it was w/ the old start menu.

Will discussion about matter ever cease? There is So much more of value to this OS than its blasted Start screen.

Come on folks, look beyond the front door. It's a really cool house w/ lots to explore, discover, use, share, enjoy, appreciate and discuss.

Cheers,
Drew
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Drew
11-08-2012, 09:11 PM
Yes, 'maou', there's an effort in some circles to unnecessarily (sorry, Ted) to dress Win8 up to look like Win7 or earlier. If it walks like, talks like... than maybe it's , actually, Windows 8. I'm with you & will just leave it 'as is', too. I, too, am used to it being just fine. No matter how cool the tool is, I, too, don't care to be adding in things.

Cheers,
Drew
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Medico
11-09-2012, 03:40 AM
This is almost akin to the guy in the Lounge who states "Win 8 is a bunch of crap. I have not used it, but saw some laptops with it installed at Costco" Actually statements like this from close minded individuals who have never even used Win 8 is a bunch of crap!

catilley1092
11-10-2012, 07:38 PM
Or too cheap to come off of $40. Most of the complainers have no money tied into the OS, if they did, then they'd think about the positive features of Windows 8, get their hands dirty & learn, & find it's the best Windows ever.

Regardless of choice of a Start Menu replacement, though it's not needed for everyone, I believe in freedom of choice. Contrary to many published articles, Windows 8 can be customized to the user's tastes. So far, most every thing that runs on 7, runs on 8.

Cat

Medico
11-11-2012, 04:00 AM
The biggest advantage of Windows in general over the Apple is a user's ability to customize almost every part of the OS to his/her needs with little effort. That is the power of Windows. We can set things up the way we want them. MS does not dictate how we can make Windows look and feel.

johnwerneken
11-11-2012, 04:13 PM
kinda sorta. but try customizing bcdboot or bootsect. one can with mbr/pbr hex editor but watch your step. undocumented stuff. Linux is better if tweaking is your thing. imho.

cloudy
11-18-2012, 04:45 PM
I love this app. I have a problem. I cant go to desktop from metro start. Since I installed StartMenu8, I go to desktop directly.

Drew
11-18-2012, 05:24 PM
'cloudy'

I understand that w/ the Start8 thing you are not seeing Start before landing on Desktop. One concern is, can you go to it after landing on Desktop.

My recommendation, if you want to have that functionality back again is uninstall Start8. Now to go directly to Desktop when booting-up upon seeing Start click on Desktop, hit WinD, W/ Desktop Tile top-left hit Enter... Ergo, 1 click or 1 Keystroke, blink of an eye, you land on Desktop, if you want... OR, now, you can, again, grab something from Start before going to Desktop, if you want.

Cheers,
Drew
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johnwerneken
11-18-2012, 08:55 PM
Cloudy: on my main partition I use StartMenuX, other win8 installs it depends, sometimes the base functionality is GREAT and the desktop startbutton menu un-needed.

METRO TO DESKTOP: Hold Down WINDOWS_KEY, Press X_Key; let go, press D_KEY or mouse to the Desktop item on what MS in it's infinite wisdom calls the "power user menu". From Desktop, Win_Key+W. With no add-ins, winkey alone is supposed to toggle from whichever interface one is faced with, to the other. fyi

Drew
11-18-2012, 09:24 PM
See, that's the point.. there's heaps of quick, simple, easy, native, ways to go straight to desktop. What's that between all a couple of us have listed, maybe 6 or 7. I reckon the toughest challenge would be making up one's mind which way to do it 'this' time, lol... could make it a game, lol. Decisions, decisions...


It's not anything to fret over, just hit a button, done :)

Cheers,
Drew
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Death.System
11-23-2012, 07:34 AM
Ah awesome, I will get this as soon as I boot my new laptop. I've been having a hard time getting used to the new Start Menu.

Jeffs0418
11-24-2012, 08:42 AM
Thanks for this. This simple and familiar interface helps greatly with the transition to the new OS.

neogen
12-04-2012, 02:28 PM
Just registered mainly to send feedback on Startmenu8 Beta 3.0.

Clicking the start orb is and always has been a second or two behind.
Cannot see display picture.
Cannot drag and drop icons on the start menu.

I like using v3.0 because it preforms better then its competitors.

Drew
12-04-2012, 03:10 PM
One can avoid problems w/ Start8 & such as they are not necessary to be added to Windows 8.

Cheers,
Drew
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wareham
12-05-2012, 10:25 AM
Thank you for the app, much better than Classic Shell.

threeone
12-05-2012, 09:19 PM
Thank you for the app, much better than Classic Shell.

Thanks for feedback.

threeone
12-05-2012, 09:27 PM
Just registered mainly to send feedback on Startmenu8 Beta 3.0.

Clicking the start orb is and always has been a second or two behind.
Cannot see display picture.
Cannot drag and drop icons on the start menu.

I like using v3.0 because it preforms better then its competitors.

Many thanks for feedback. I have sent to IObit and they will check this. Thank you very much.

MCINFO
12-09-2012, 08:40 AM
Hello,
I personally use startmenu8 and I installed on the computers of my clients because they do not like the new interface for Win8.
This is a very good program, maybe it suffers from a few flaws, but it is a beta. At least it does not install the toolbar in the browser as another one.
I am French and I translated for my clients after I saw that there was a file to upload, sorry I took the file in the language directory, so I just send it to you, I think you have already received a French translation, right?
OK so good job again and continue like this!
Bye Chris M

Charles Blackburn
12-10-2012, 10:00 AM
Hello, First impression it works, Only bug I see is the Desktop shortcut and "Stat button"/"All Programs"/"StartMenu8 Shortcuts" when clicked on are dead, plus the annoying "send feedback logo/link under user Pick dont work, plus would like the options for the start menu to include options to include "Downloads" as in Win 7 start menu. But it works pretty good...

Drew
12-10-2012, 10:37 AM
Charles,

BTW, none of this matters all that much as these things are not needed (to be added to or) in Windows 8. One can, certainly, muck about w/ them, if one cares to bother w/ such things but, Windows 8 works very, very, nicely w/out such stuff being added. The KISS principle applies nicely to 8.

Just saying & it's food for thought. My clients are told about Windows 8, but, not unneeded 3rd Party things like this.

Cheers,
Drew

threeone
12-10-2012, 06:26 PM
Hi MCINFO,

Welcome to Windows 8 Forums. And many thanks to you for translation. Your support is important for us.

Hello,
I personally use startmenu8 and I installed on the computers of my clients because they do not like the new interface for Win8.
This is a very good program, maybe it suffers from a few flaws, but it is a beta. At least it does not install the toolbar in the browser as another one.
I am French and I translated for my clients after I saw that there was a file to upload, sorry I took the file in the language directory, so I just send it to you, I think you have already received a French translation, right?
OK so good job again and continue like this!
Bye Chris M

Drew
12-10-2012, 09:54 PM
People should, could be taught or shown how to use Windows 8 or how it can be nicely, enjoyably, easily & efficiently used as it is. Rather than being lead to believe they must add 3rd party stuff to make it look & act like some other Operating System. Certainly, people are free to BOTHER w/ these unneeded things or they could be informed that it is merely complicating something that can & does work extremely well w/out adding stuff.

My clients love Win8 & they are not shown unneeded added 3rd Party stuff.

Just to be accurate, know what one thinks one wants & what the OS needs are two totally different things. Know, Win8 does not (actually need these (old) things added.

Cheers,
Drew

catilley1092
12-10-2012, 11:20 PM
As long as Windows 8 is selling, like hotcakes, I don't care what's installed to help use the OS.

No, one doesn't "need" these apps, but they sure come in handy at times. There's plenty that we don't need, if one wants to keep everything simple, but this is Customization, just as with other apps.

For years, Windows users hasn't used the built in tool to perform a task with. There's Defrag, Backup, WMC, Security, Disk Image Burner & other "built in" apps that many of us don't bother with & replace those with apps of our choosing. This is one of the great things about Windows, one can customize it as desired, as long as no reverse engineering (rewriting the code) is involved. The EULA states what we can & cannot do.

Cat

johnwerneken
12-11-2012, 12:09 AM
Agree. The theory is to be able to see roughly the same stuff, on a desktop laptop tablet or phone, anyone's, anywhere, and use one's own cloud-stored data and cloud-based aps. And it works really good as a local, no cloud involved operating system. I do think SOME of the third party bolt-ons are not only possibly unneeded, but cause issues their users would not otherwise face; to the extent that that is so, I think it sad.

dothackZealot
12-17-2012, 12:07 PM
I've noticed that StartMenu8 is not DPI aware. I first noticed it on a Windows 8 laptop with the size of all items set to 125%, as the start icon looked too far on the bottom. I Then tried it on another computer that has Windows 8 and 200% size. The StartMenu8 icon size did not change and looked quite small. Upon opening the start menu, I found that Internet Explorer was pinned to the top, but a good portion of the icon was cut off, as the icon was too big for the non-scaled menu.

On non-administrator accounts, changes to StartMenu8 settings have no effect on that account, even after a restart.

The above two are deal-breakers for me, as I need on-screen items a bit larger than most and usually use a non-admin account for a bit of added security.

Even though I have enabled displaying of Hibernate as an option and disabled Hybrid Sleep on my power plans, the start menu still does not display that option in the list next to shut down, only Restart and Sleep under the account options.

The Shut Down button disregards Windows 8's Hybrid shutdown setting and does not do a hybrid shutdown even though I have it enabled. Start ups consistently take a good deal longer when the computer was shut down using StartMenu8's shut down button vs the normal way of shutting down in Windows 8.

It would be nice to be able to set what the left and right windows keys on a keyboard do. A user could then have one for the start menu and another for the interface formerly known as Metro. Those computers with only one Windows key could still have it bring up the start screen with the windows key while using the mouse for the start menu.

Drew
12-17-2012, 12:19 PM
'dZ',

I think if you went w/out the unnecessary Start8 thing your issue would not exist, would become a moot point. You don't need it or the problems it is creating for you.

Cheers,
Drew
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dothackZealot
12-17-2012, 12:31 PM
Drew, I'm here to leave feedback on a piece of software to possibly help improve that software. I like trying out new things, which is why I beta tested Windows 8 since Developer Preview. StartMenu8 doesn't work well enough for me, so I will be removing it until there's another update to try out. After all, I've got enough problems inherent in Windows 8 to deal with, like my USB 3.0 ports working at USB 2.0 speeds when they worked fine in Windows 7 with the same hardware. StartMenu8 is much like 3rd party defragmenting software. While many people don't need it and the default works just fine, there is an audience for it.

To clarify, I'm not using Start8, as that's commercial software not by IOBit nor the subject of this thread.

SAPOBOMBA
12-21-2012, 01:20 PM
Hi there everyone, i just entered this forum to share my own modification to language options to Brazilian Portuguese, i modified the language file available in the first post e changed the sentences properly.

Also, have tested it in my own computer, running Windows 8 Pro with WMC and StartMenu8. If you ask for, i can upload the file to be later included in newer versions of the StartMenu8.

It's a well done and revised translation, so no more changes are required, just load it up and enjoy.

PS: Sorry any misspelling

Cheers!

nanikore
12-24-2012, 09:54 PM
Apparently I started to try out this software when many of the previous bugs have been ironed out. The software is working quite well.

I started using StartMenu8 after looking for an alternative to Classic Shell. SM8 has these advantages:

- I liked to actually have the original orb, though it's a small point
- Classic Shell apparently has to be uninstalled entirely for it to be disabled. It doesn't (yet) have a checkbox for "start with windows"
- Classic Shell didn't use alpha blending. Whatever SM8 is using, it either IS alpha blending or a pretty good imitation of one. Kudos to IObit on that.

So I'm here, using SM8 and giving feedback.

This is a minor thing. After exiting SM8 by right clicking on the orb and selecting exit, the space occupied by the orb remains empty unless the mouse was hovering somewhere over the taskbar. I'm not sure if this is expected behavior. When the program exits it should return the left taskbar corner (i.e. where that orb goes) to the state before the program started. There should not be a hanging blank. Again, minor aesthetic issue.

Also, I think the thread should make it clear whether or not the forum itself is affiliated with IOBit. If it is not then it should state so clearly. Thanks.

catilley1092
12-24-2012, 10:20 PM
This part of the Forum is only for feedback pertaining to StartMenu8. If one doesn't like it, then fine, don't use it, this is about matter of choice, which we all have (so far).

To all members who has Start Menu 8, keep the good (& bad or neutral) comments coming in. That's what the thread is about.

Cat

nanikore
12-25-2012, 11:30 AM
The "personal folder" menu setting does not seem to do anything. Perhaps it needs to be manually edited somewhere?

Edit: Nevermind- I figured this one out- It's for the items that appear when you click on your account name (in case of Win8 may be your real name)

Other than that, the ability to show and hide so many different things on the right side menu is great- Even better than the original Windows 7 start menu.

hovert45
12-25-2012, 07:00 PM
in the settings for customising the menu the documents options is listed as "DocumenUts" instead of Documents, but when you press startmenu8 it's correctly spelled. In the English.lng file has the spelling mistake under Documenuts_M=Documenuts
file search doesn't work only programs this needs fixing
request features:
option to open start screen with right windows key
dragging and dropping to start menu
highlighting new programs not supported
open submenus when I pause on them with the mouse pointer not supported
option to change what the power button does
links to modern ui apps
link to start screen in the start menu

nanikore
12-26-2012, 12:58 AM
I can not get the menu item "Downloads" to show, either as a link or as a menu.

Drew
12-28-2012, 12:34 PM
Cat,

My only point was one could avoid what is good or bad, works or doesn't, any problems or issues w/ Start8 and live (happily) w/out it, in the 1st place, since it is not needed, anyway.

Was just suggesting people could be sparing themselves the hassles.

Cheers,
Drew
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nanikore
12-29-2012, 09:51 AM
That's for them to decide, Drew.

Ahmad Zuhdi Ubaidillah
12-29-2012, 02:35 PM
i think this start menu need fade effect

nanikore
12-30-2012, 09:07 PM
SM8 has some trouble handling the screen when there is a Windows 8 app docked along the left side of the screen. The menu is covered, and the first tastbar shortcut dives under the start orb. Please see screenshot below.

1840

When the Windows 8 app is docked to the right side, there is no issue.

johnwerneken
12-30-2012, 11:29 PM
nanikore: On your keyboard:
•Windows Key + M will minimize the current application.
•Windows Key + D will return to desktop.

To shut it down: Alt + F4.

Or, to shut down the currently running Metro app using the mouse, click and hold on the top edge of the app, or the screen, and drag down to the bottom edge of the screen. The app becomes a smaller window and is dragged off the bottom of the screen.

nanikore
12-31-2012, 12:07 AM
I know how to do those things. That's not the point.

I'm reporting a bug in the StartMenu8 program. That's the purpose of this thread.


nanikore: On your keyboard:
•Windows Key + M will minimize the current application.
•Windows Key + D will return to desktop.

To shut it down: Alt + F4.

Or, to shut down the currently running Metro app using the mouse, click and hold on the top edge of the app, or the screen, and drag down to the bottom edge of the screen. The app becomes a smaller window and is dragged off the bottom of the screen.

mikewill34
01-01-2013, 02:18 PM
Please sort in folders (in All Programs) alphabetical order

John_Doe
01-09-2013, 10:11 PM
Hello,

Thank you for StartMenu8, I use the beta 3, I do not know the antecedent versions.
I tested other menu StartMenu8 is started and that I kept, I find it very stable.

I'm not bashing Windows 8, although graphically it is less beautiful. More aero glass, no start menu and the original Home Menu is not really practical for a desktop computer.

I just Regrete Microsoft developed Windows 8 for tablets and mostly forgot the user orinateur more conventional, maybe he had'll provide a version Desktop Computer.

So I translated into French lng file and emailed to you at your request.

In the near future, our forum has to pack and utilities for Windows 8 StartMenu8 was chosen to be part of this future pack.
Of course if you have the agreement of IObit, is even better.

Thank you very much, I'm ready to output your final StartMenu8.


French :

Bonjour,

Merci pour StartMenu8, j'utilise la beta 3, je n'ai pas connu les versions antécédente.
J'ai testé d'autre menu démarré et c'est StartMenu8 que j'ai conservé, je le trouve très stable.

Je ne vais pas dénigrer Windows 8, bien que graphiquement, il est moins beau. Plus d'aero glass, pas de menu démarrer d'origine et le Menu Accueil n'est pas vraiment pratique pour un ordinateur de bureau.

Je regrête juste de Microsoft a développé Windows 8 principalement pour les tablettes et a oublié les utilisateur d'orinateur plus classique, peut être qu'il aurai dut prévoir une version Ordinateur de Bureau.

J'ai donc traduit en Francais le fichier lng et envoyé par mail selon votre demande.

Dans l'avenir proche, notre forum compte faire un pack utilitaires pour Windows 8 et StartMenu8 a été retenu pour faire parti de ce futur pack.
Bien entendu si on a l'accord de IObit, c'est encore mieux.

Merci beaucoup, je suis de prêt la sortie de votre version finale de StartMenu8.

Drew
01-09-2013, 11:39 PM
I avoid discussions regarding things like Start8 or Classic Shell but, the follow comment points @ something that is not really, in actual fact, correct.

"I just Regrete Microsoft developed Windows 8 for tablets and mostly forgot the user orinateur more conventional, maybe he had'll provide a version Desktop Computer."


Windows 8 is just as happy on a conventional, non-Touch Desktop PC or laptop as any mobile device. One of the major achieved design goals was to build an OS that would, could apply across multiple devices.

Cheers,
Drew
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John_Doe
01-09-2013, 11:53 PM
Amazing, you have to work for Microsoft! The positive attitude!


But I can still have a different opinion.

Drew
01-10-2013, 12:25 AM
You can have an opinion, no question about that.

I had not put forth one.

Cheers,
Drew
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nsmcus
01-15-2013, 05:32 PM
Yes. This is a cool program. I wish there are links to recently opened / access files and programs

de2_lagi
01-18-2013, 07:33 PM
nice info,,i'll try next session

mikewill34
01-21-2013, 02:50 AM
nice info,,i'll try next session
Regarding:
Please sort in folders (in All Programs) alphabetical order.

Forgot to say previously the program folder which was out of place was "iTunes", note the lower case "i".

Your program should perform a case In-sensitive sort of the folders.

Mike

Drew
01-21-2013, 03:31 AM
It is not "my program". It is just a standard windows explorer window. Only has normal, usual settings for such windows.

But, many like it better than flipping screens or the style of the Start screen & Tiles or of Win+Q.

Cheers,
Drew
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mikewill34
01-21-2013, 04:07 AM
It is not "my program". It is just a standard windows explorer window. Only has normal, usual settings for such windows.
Apologies I wasn't to know, maybe I was seeing standard "Windows 8" sorting of the folder names, Next time i can get some time on my son's laptop I will let you know.

Mike

nanikore
01-26-2013, 11:09 AM
Alright I'm going to say something about this.

Just because win8 "achieved all design goals" for Microsoft doesn't automatically mean it "achieved all goals" of every customer or even a vast majority of its customers. Otherwise it wouldn't have been "under expectations" of sales goals. The fact that it has been "under expectations" (as oppose to "meeting or exceeding expectations" as far as Windows 7 was concerned) points to its flaws.

When it comes to the actual end users (that's us), it's OUR goals that matters, not Microsoft's, nor any of its fans.

As far as MY requirements are concerned, Win8 came under expectations.

Even Paul Thurrott, owner of Supersite for Windows probably the biggest fan of the WIndows OS on planet Earth, had some choice words for Windows 8:

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/windows-8-sales-well-below-projections-plenty-blame-go-around


Windows 8. It’s a floor wax. No, it’s a dessert topping. Microsoft’s new whatever-the-F-it-is operating system is a confusing, Frankenstein’s monster mix of old and new that hides a great desktop upgrade under a crazy Metro front-end. It’s touch-first, as Microsoft says, but really it’s touch whether you want it or not (or have it or not), and the firm’s inability to give its own customers the choice to pick which UI they want is what really makes Windows 8 confounding to users. I actually like Windows 8 quite a bit and can’t imagine switching back. But I do understand the complaints of customers who aren’t getting what they wanted or asked for.

Some more points of the Windows 8 failure he made is here:

Windows 8: Death by a Thousand Cuts? (http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/windows8/microsoft-windows-8-death-thousand-cuts-144989)

...He even wrote a five part SERIES on how to FIX Windows 8.

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/fixing-windows-8-part-1-app-bar

http://winsupersite.com/windows-8/fixing-windows-8-part-5-built-apps

Now, let's put this baby to sleep, shall we? If you doubt just how much Thurrott knows about Windows in general, check out his site. There are a whole lot more examples there of how Windows 8 is coming up short.

We can argue and fuss until pigs fly and the cows come home but that won't change the FACT that Windows 8 is INDEED "below expectations" for a great number of people and that's why they look for stuff (like 3rd party software) to "fix" Window 8, for them.

If you are not one "of them", then that's fine and dandy... Please just kindly stop the nudging and needling. We are providing feedback on Startmenu 8 here, not trying to justify why we're using it. Thanks.

(EOR)

YourNumbr1Fan
01-28-2013, 01:37 AM
I'm not keen on using a start-menu addy in Windows 8.....I'm fine with using the Charms/Search function and pinning certain things to the taskbar. Just don't see why anyone would want to try to make Win8 look like Win7. No need for the start-menu.

Drew
01-28-2013, 01:52 AM
Ah, yep, Jimmy, you're right, that's true, no need, @ all.

I do have, know a way (which is listed in this forum) that one can have ALL applications (Store APPs & others) in a window on the Taskbar... ergo, no need to leave Desktop; if, might interest you. Also, using Power Users menu, APP Bar & Desktop Toolbar makes for a pleasant, productive environment.

Cheers,
Drew
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YourNumbr1Fan
01-28-2013, 02:15 AM
Thanks Drew---But I have to tell you, my name is Jimmy (not Johnny, LOL!)

Drew
01-28-2013, 02:55 AM
Opps, sorry Jimmy. Just learning to read :S

Cheers,
Drew
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YourNumbr1Fan
01-28-2013, 03:48 AM
Haha!---No problemo man!

nanikore
01-30-2013, 09:46 PM
Nope, not interested. I don't "see" why some people can't just let others use what they like to use.

There's something else than just bare practicality and that's aesthetics. But then again, I'm not going to explain that point because people will not understand if they don't want to.

You "don't see" why I need it, and I "don't see" how anyone "can't see" that there is a need. Again, absolutely useless to a thread which purpose isn't to justify the use of the utility.

nanikore
01-30-2013, 09:48 PM
Oh, almost forgot why I'm here today.

Giving feedback to the new version 1.0.

All the bugs that I've previously reported have apparently been squashed. Good work, IObit.

Vitalinya Man
04-27-2013, 04:21 AM
For me old version dont lauch microsoft office shortcuts by click. Only by right button mouse -> open. Then i nstalled this version and hurray - worked by clicking! thanks a lot very similar with original that is vitable. btw how hide send Feedback button?

pavanppk
06-23-2013, 04:41 AM
its nice..to good to use

isorxp
11-30-2013, 09:42 AM
Thanks a lot, it is the best classic menu... Just one detail, the feedback button has red color and looks ugly.