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cjc72
09-26-2012, 03:15 AM
Hello,

I just see the new section. StartMenu 8 looks good, I would like to have a try.

Where I can download StartMenu 8?

TechnoMage
09-26-2012, 05:44 AM
Did you try a Google search?

I did and came up with this:
Windows 8 Start Menu (http://www.startmenu8.com/index.html)

:cool:

Medico
09-26-2012, 08:52 AM
I assume this is the same app, but I'm not sure since this thread (http://www.forumswindows8.com/startmenu8/send-your-feedback-startmenu8-beta-7847.htm)states it will be available shortly.

windows
09-26-2012, 06:11 PM
Our VIP partner will release a new StartMenu8 beta later this week, it is quite smart.

I am using at this moment, no AD, easy to setup and use. A sweet app

catilley1092
09-26-2012, 08:41 PM
I'll have to check this one out. Currently, I'm running 8 RP "as is", except for security. This was the way I ran CP, after a few days & a couple of tutorials, I got the hang of it.

Classic Shell is also good, but the constant updating drove me away. I can see every few months, but sometimes, a couple of days? However, so far, it's the best alternative that I've tried to date. Start Menu 7, I did try, but there was Free & Pro versions, making me feel that I was missing out on a feature.

I've bookmarked the Start Menu 8 page (already have downloaded the app). AVG 2013 Free scans it as clean. Will try it on Windows XP first. Is this the same app that TM linked above? It looks a lot different from that in threeone's thread.

Windows 8 Start Menu (http://www.startmenu8.com/index.html)

Cat

Medico
09-27-2012, 02:32 AM
There has only been one update for Classic Shell that fixed a bug since the Win 8 Specific app was released.

Since StartMenu8 will be a beta release, I assume there will also be more releases until a released version is released. (boy that's a lot of releases! LOL)

I will consider trying this, but it will have to provide a compelling reason to drop Classic Shell (a much older app) in favor of this. To me it sounds like just another of several apps designed to add the Start Orb back into the Desktop. We'll see.

catilley1092
09-27-2012, 08:59 AM
That may have been the quick one, the one that was released a few days after the previous release.

A lot of Windows 8 apps tends to be this way, no doubt StartMenu 8 will be the same. I'm just trying these type of apps out, to determine whether or not to suggest to others that may need them. Like I previously stated, so far Classic Shell has been the best one of the lot that I've used. Works well on Windows 7 & Vista also.

As for myself, I'm pretty much, with some extras provided in the Customization Forum, running the OS as is. The main exception being security, running AVG 2013 Free with MBAM Pro.

I have a gut feeling that many of the OEM's will offer some Start Orb alternative to boost sales of their computers.

Cat

Drew
09-28-2012, 03:55 PM
Why would you ask for any of that stuff?? There is no need for it. Easier & best to discover & learn Windows8 'as is' w/out confusing things & increasing the workload w/ unneeded add-ins or retro-fits. Windows8 works well, nicely & enjoyably w/out making it into something it's not.

8 has excellent security built in & it has a Start icon that goes to a screen that is completely optional whether one bothers to use it or not. It, certainly, needs no old start button added to it.

Does everything needed quickly & well right out of the box.

KISS principle is a great concept!

Cheers,
Drew
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Medico
09-28-2012, 04:10 PM
Drew, we know you do not like these add-ons. Many people do like and want them. I do not use it for my oft used apps or for my links. I do use it for Favorites, CP and WU. I know I can set up to not do this, but setting up Toolbars are customizations as well. You have a Desktop Toolbar, I believe an app Toolbar. These are customizations as well. No a separate app is not necessary for Win 8. Some of us just like what we gain from it.

Please let us use Win 8 the way we want and we will do the same for you. Thank-you

Drew
09-28-2012, 04:37 PM
All I'm trying to get across, Ted, is people are being lead to believe they like & want them cus they are needed...they aren't. The Desktop Toolbar is not a 'customization'. Rt Clk the Taskbar > Toolbars, it's one of the, already, standard equipment items available, by default & not new to Windows8. And it includes Favorites and CP... not to mention CP is, already, on the Rt Clk Users Menu @ the Bottom-Left Corner or in Charms Bar. WU... there's, already, @ least, 3 fast, easy ways to get that... Start, type Update, Charms > Change PC Settings (shows @ bottom of the list), WinE & type Update.

& yes, I admit I added 1 (ONE) thing in that Applications folder on the Taskbar BUT, WinQ gets the same stuff & again, w/out leaving Desktop.

People can think they like & want something... all I'm trying to convey is the NEED is not there & the OS does beautifully w/out such add-ins or the added work, effort, thought, concern or complexity.

And don't be like that... I didn't ever say or suggest not "letting" people do whatever in the disrespectful sense you imply, just that such things are not necessary & in that light the statement is valid & true.

I didn't even hint that people can't do whatever, only that they should not be lead to believe they had to. Nor did I ever suggest they should not but, only that is wasn't/isn't obligatory.

And you can be nice enough to let me have my feelings & be allowed to express them, graciously, too. Allow freedom of speech, thought & opinion!

Liking something or not doesn't come into it... Just trying to make sure people are aware & understand that such things like Start8 & Classic Shell are not requirements, not 'must haves'... the OS does work ever so nicely, even w/out such things added. That's all. Just clarifying the difference between desire & need. If people desire something but, should not be thinking the OS can't be a nice experience w/out such things, too.

Cheers,
Drew
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threeone
09-28-2012, 09:34 PM
Hi cjc 72,

StartMenu8 Beta available now. Download here (http://www.forumswindows8.com/startmenu8/send-your-feedback-startmenu8-beta-7847.htm).

cjc72
10-08-2012, 10:17 PM
Thanks. I have downloaded it.

cjc72
10-08-2012, 10:23 PM
This beta version has bugs. Hope next version would be better.

Drew
10-08-2012, 10:53 PM
Or, of course, you could just go w/out it, in any version.

Cheers,
Drew
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catilley1092
10-09-2012, 10:51 PM
StartMenu 8 has some bugs, as most Beta software does, but it's a useable product.

I must admit, I don't really need it, can run 8 RP as is, except for security. Ran 8 CP w/o any of these things, had to wing it a couple of days, then there were keyboard shortcuts posted, this helped a lot.

Just today, & it's still going on until 3AM, Giveaway of the Day is giving away Start Menu X Pro, which normally costs $19.95, & is by far a more refined offering (they have a Free version too). But again, I don't need this stuff.

I'm basically doing this to participate in the project & hopefully improve it, just as I do other Beta apps, mainly security. If it weren't for Beta testers, we wouldn't be enjoying many of the apps that we have today. Same with health care, clinical trials are the route to the modern medical options that we have today. Many patients died for this cause.

Someone has to step forward & participate in these things, just as with Windows 7 (a success before it was even released), & now Windows 8 RP. I believe it's going to be a success also, though not as fast as 7 was. 7 was a big hit in large part due to no real new alternative for 8 years (XP was released in 2001 & Vista never was a hit).

There is a market for StartMenu 8, obviously for those who wants the Windows 7 look & feel on a Windows 8 computer. Time will tell whether or not the project successful or not.

Mainly by those willing to participate in new technologies, no matter the cause, we now have access to many things that we didn't just a few years ago.

Food for thought.

Cat

peterr89
10-14-2012, 08:16 PM
Hi This beta version has bugs

catilley1092
10-14-2012, 09:19 PM
As with any new app, this is to be expected. Remember, this is a BETA app, not a stable release. The more bugs reported to IObit, the better. And the longer you stick with it, as with any unfinished beta app, the better it works. Real world testers are required to make new apps/OS's available for all. Windows 8 is still in beta & is no exception to the rule.

Actually, on a fresh install of 8 RP, just got finished a few minutes ago, some apps wouldn't open from StartMenu 8. For me, it's no big deal, I go to the tiles to open whatever doesn't on this app.

But I feel that it's important to report it.

What kind of bugs are you experiencing w/the app, peterr89?

Cat

Drew
10-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Cat,

Can you, please, better explain, for me, of what dual-boot issue you speak. As, I think you know I have dual-booted XP/Vista, Vista/& and 7/8; plus, there was a time that I triple-booted, for a while although, I forget which 3 OSs it was.

Cheers,
Drew
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Drew
10-14-2012, 09:36 PM
Peter,

Not sure how much of a revelation that is... would be precisely why we beta test OSs. But, it would be cool if you would state to what beta you refer & state what the specific or particular bugs are. Also, kind of wonder what your point is besides commenting on the expected, ie that a beta may have bugs.

Cheers,
Drew
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catilley1092
10-14-2012, 09:39 PM
I've dual, tri & quad booted OS's a few times. Are you speaking of another issue in another thread, perhaps the "Attitude" one? If so, it's best to discuss it there.

I don't want to turn this thread about another app into mine.

Cat

catilley1092
10-14-2012, 09:40 PM
Peter,

Not sure how much of a revelation that is... would be precisely why we beta test OSs. But, it would be cool if you would state to what beta you refer & state what the specific or particular bugs are. Also, kind of wonder what your point is besides commenting on the expected, ie that a beta may have bugs.

Cheers,
Drew
1235 He's gone.

Cat

Drew
10-14-2012, 10:07 PM
Cat, I accidently put my 'reply' to you in the wrong thread (this one). So go look @ that other thread... you're right, it's the "Attitude" one.

Cheers,
Drew
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Drew
10-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Gone? as in left the building?

Drew

catilley1092
10-14-2012, 10:11 PM
No problem, I'll keep an eye on that thread, while dealing with other issues here.

Cat

catilley1092
10-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Gone? as in left the building?

Drew Yes.

Cat

Drew
10-14-2012, 10:46 PM
Darn, going to miss his terrific posts.

Betas have bugs... has a nice ring to it... like a nursery rhyme or a tongue-twister. Startling news, too.

Cheers,
Drew
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de2_lagi
01-18-2013, 07:31 PM
simple..just install windows 8 in your pc

poelty
08-17-2014, 10:32 PM
There are many, you can google