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TechnoMage
07-24-2012, 08:09 AM
Case mods to me, mean doing something that will add to the longevity (life) of the PC.
For most case mods, you must first start with a full sized case, not one of those Minis.
In fact, I buy only mid-tower cases that are extra deep, front to back.
My favorite case is one called "The PacMan Case". (because the power button is the shape of PacMan.)

On my own case, the first mod I did was to put a cooling fan in the upper drive bays cover plates to pull in cool air and blow it past my main hard drive.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/FrontOpen.jpg

Then I cut out the two fan grills in the lower front panel.
Snip - Snip! The grills are gone.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/SnipSnip.jpg

Then I installed two new case fans in the front panel.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/Ready2Blow.jpg

Once the plastic front panel is re-installed, the two front panel cooling fans virtually disappear.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/Cyclops.jpg

Case mods should always be designed to improve either the performance or life expectancy of the PC.

Adding more cooling fans (I have 11 now) puts an extra load on the Power Supply, so make sure you have a PSU heavy duty enough to supply all your hardware.

Cheers Mates!
TechnoMage :cool:

Medico
07-24-2012, 09:53 AM
You and Fred (from the Lounge) should compare notes. You both have heavily modified cases. In my case I just do not have the space where I use my PC for a Desktop PC. I have a 6 or 7 year old Dell XPS tower, but it does not get much use any more. Oh well. Nice Tutorial on cooling TM.

Fred's PC:

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TechnoMage
07-24-2012, 10:09 AM
The first mod I did, is the same one I do or have done to all my PC's for the past umteen years.

I add a two-fan 'VIO' cooler to all my hard drives. It totally eliminates overheating and premature drive failure.
Here's the cooler by itself:
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/HardDriveCooler.gif

And here's the same type of cooler, installed on the hard drive, with 1/4" standoffs, to improve air flow and greatly increase cooling.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/CoolDrive1.jpg

I tried several different types of standoff, till I finally hit on the little brass standoffs used to mount motherboards to the case. The first picture, in my original post, shows my main hard drive, mounted on standoffs and with a cooler attached.
The drive stays at room temperature, even under the heaviest loads, like when it's doing a scan or defrag.

My computer room is not air conditioned and during the summer, before I started using drive coolers, I lost three hard drives to overheating.
Since I developed the cooling process I now use, I've not lost one drive.
I have people around the world, using my process.
I just got an email, from a friend in Arkansas, with a picture showing his new hard drive with attached cooler. It reminds me of a saying we had back in the 60's...."keep a cool tool, fool!"

Here's two pictures sent to me by friends, who have adopted my drive cooling technique.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/redblue.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/NEW.jpg

Keep a cool tool...............

TM :cool:

Just Plain Fred
07-26-2012, 04:52 PM
Hello all,
Just thought that some who plan on doing this type of upgrade might benefit from this ..A few pic's of a Corsair 650D that i have "moved" into

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Thanks for the help !...Now working on a New motherboard and CPU to go along with it

I am not sure what the problem is Fred. When I go to edit the post the pics appear, and when I click on the place holder they appear properly. I even save your pics to my desktop, then removed your original pics, and uploaded from my desktop. Same results, Ted

catilley1092
07-26-2012, 05:12 PM
Fred, when I first came here, we had to reach 50 posts before posting links, not sure if it's the same with pictures.

But the option, if available to you, should be in the "go advanced" box in the right corner.

Cat

catilley1092
07-26-2012, 05:37 PM
TM, I didn't realize that those fans were so low priced ($3.50). They really push some air for the price.

Hard Drive Cooler w/2 Fans & 4-Pin Connector (Black) - VIO HC-350-BK HC-350 (http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HC-350-BK)

My issue with this, is that I don't have any power connectors to plug them into, otherwise I'd have 6 (that's no typo) of them. That RE4 that I bought last week gave me 6 HDD's total for my desktop (3 are for storage).

Plus I have two extra 2.5" HDD's for my MSI, & one 2.5" for the ThinkPad (IDE type).

My solution for keeping my HDD's cool is primitive, but effective. I have a small personal fan that one uses at a desk, purchased for $5, blowing cool air about 4" away from my HDD's, that I run outside of the PC, plus it forces some additional air into the HDD opening to greatly reduce MB/RAM heat.

An average of 30C is fairly good for HDD temps, prior to doing this, it was running around 38C, minimum. I can place my hand on it, it's actually cool to the touch. CPU & MB Temps are lowered also, in the upper 40's. These used to run in the mid to upper 60's.

Needless to say, I feel that $5 was well spent, as each digit dropped adds to the life of components.

BTW, nice rigs that both of you have! Unfortunately, I only have a place for 1 HDD, being that I have an AIO type desktop. I do plan to add a HDD to my notebook though, there's a thread on it in the Hardware section.

http://www.forumswindows8.com/hardware-devices/considering-adding-2nd-hdd-my-notebook-7277.htm

I plan to run both Windows 7 & 8 Pro on it, possibly on separate HDD's.

Cat

TechnoMage
08-05-2012, 02:10 PM
WE're talking about REAL computers here.....not play toys or netbooks. Eh?
There's not much you can do to 'Mod' those little guys. Maybe add some stickers. :)

I keep those two-fan coolers on hand all the time and usually order them, from Computer Geeks, six at a time.

TM :cool:

Allison
08-20-2012, 02:04 AM
I have never done case mods. Seems cool.

TechnoMage
08-20-2012, 09:09 AM
There are two distinct types of case mods.

One is the "fancy it up" type of mod, that serves no useful purpose, but to add glitz or Bling.

The other is the practical mod that improves the performance of the PC, usually by adding
more fans for cooler operation. That's what I've done with mine.

Sometimes, both can be done with the same mod.
For instance, the fan that I added to the front of my PC case, has built in (programmable) digital readout.
As the fan spins, the LED readout first says "Hal 9000" and then displays the temperature of the incoming air.
It's both 'Kinda neat' and serves a useful purpose at the same time.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/HAL9000.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/86F.jpg

It's neat, when you can combine 'Bling' and function at the same time.

Here's a great example of fun and function, in the same PC.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/BeerPC-1.jpg

A PC should be enjoyable and functional at the same time. Eh?

Cheers mates!
TM :cool:

catilley1092
08-20-2012, 09:14 PM
Hey, where's mine at? That's a lot of booze to leave sitting.

Yes I agree, it should be enjoyable & functional.

Cat

bassfisher6522
01-28-2013, 12:35 PM
I like the idea of the two new cut outs for case fans. The only problem I see, and this is just from the pictures posted, is that there are no intake vent on the from case cover to draw in clean cool fresh air. Other than that, those are some nice mods.

jezzaboi123
03-11-2013, 08:26 PM
Does anyone know if you can get laptop case mods?

TechnoMage
04-28-2013, 04:46 PM
Aaaaaaa, you don't really GET case mods, you Make them!

Just about anything you could do to a Laptop, would have to be on the outside and Cosmetic in nature.
Like some Stick-On decals, labels, etc.

I have slightly modded the cases on some laptops, by putting stick-on FEET under the bottom corners of the laptop to raise it slightly, for better cooling.

That's as Crazy as I've ever gotten with a laptop.

TM :cool:

badrobot
07-09-2013, 06:30 AM
Hi TM,

I have an HP i5 system which I've upgraded a lot already. I've added a lot to it and now it's time for a bigger case (yeah, I've also tossed away the original PSU becasue of the add-ons). I've never built a PC on my own. I am planning to get a new case for my current PC and I am just wondering what things should I consider in buying a new case. I've checked and I verified that my mobo is a micro-ATX. Are all cases that are described as micro-ATX the same? Would the openings at the back of the case match the I/O configuration of my mobo? Planning to get a gaming case, not because I am a PC gamer but becasue of the fan options and more space for future upgrades.

I am looking at this one:

Newegg.ca - Thermaltake Commander MS-I ID VN400A1W2N Black SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133190)

and this one:

Cooler Master K350 Micro-ATX / ATX Computer Case (RC-K350-KWN1-EN) - Black : Computer Cases - Best Buy Canada (http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/cooler-master-cooler-master-k350-micro-atx-atx-computer-case-rc-k350-kwn1-en-black-rc-k350-kwn1-en/10248861.aspx?path=64bc495e69e21c324c5f8537fa61cbc een02)

bassfisher6522
07-09-2013, 08:48 AM
Thermaltake is a great choice....I have the Overseer RX 1 Full tower, great case. My only suggestion for a case is if you have the space for it, go full tower...you wont be sorry. When picking a case just make sure it will fit what ever form factor (size) mobo you have. The beauty of full tower cases is that they will work with just about any form factor out there, from micro ATX to extended ATX. Also, if you have any external 3.5" drives you'll need a case that supports 3.5" external bays....eg card readers. Another thing I like to look for in a case is cable management, where you can re-route the cables for better aesthetics and air flow. Also with full tower cases, most come with 200mm fans (they're big) and run at a lower RPM and much quieter for better cooling and air flow.

For the I/O sheild of the mobo, it's a standard size, it will pop off and you just pop it in on the new case.

Youtube is a great source for checking out hardware or anything for that matter. You'll get to see how other case owners have their hardware mounted and installed, especially cable management. At least it will give you some ideas.

catilley1092
07-09-2013, 09:34 PM
It also helps to have a modular PSU, this greatly helps with cable management. This prevents a mass of wires from being in the way. Plug only those you need in.

Cat

badrobot
07-12-2013, 07:20 AM
Thanks for the suggestion Bass. I got a Thermaltake Commander MS-1 with plenty of options for fans that wouldn't need modifications.

Cat, at this point I am just gonna use the PSU I have. But the case I got have a neat cable management feature.
Cheers!

Here's the "before" shot of the case. Will post an "after" shot later.

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badrobot
07-12-2013, 06:18 PM
I thought I don't need a mod but I have an extra twin fan lying around so I put them in front (hd bays):

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And i has a nice effect on front grills:

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I also replaced my CPU fan:

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and added one more exhaust fan on top:

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I am happy with the case I got for only $59.99. And hopefully in 4 weeks I'll get $10 back in the form of rebate. :) Cheers!

bassfisher6522
07-12-2013, 06:37 PM
Looks good dude...nice job!

catilley1092
07-12-2013, 09:00 PM
That is nice & it was good that the current PSU would work. The thing with PSU's is, getting a quality one. Many of the upper end models has a surprising number of "DOA" arrivals. That makes it hard for a first time builder to decide. Same with cases, though not as bad as PSU's.

I haven't fully made up my mind on building or buying a pre-built PC this fall, however if I buy a pre-built one, it will have a 3 year in home warranty out of the box. There are many such models with the i5 CPU that I want available. That's also a must, a quad core i5 (minimum) w/Intel 4000 graphics & if the price is right, a 2GB GDDR5 NVIDIA GPU & room for 16GB of DDR3 1600 RAM (though I understand there's varying opinions between 1333 & 1600 with 16GB is installed).

The SSD, I can & will take care of myself.

Cat

bassfisher6522
07-12-2013, 09:20 PM
Cat...that's going to be one beast of a machine when all said and done. I highly recommend, if going Nvidia a 680 series, 2 or 4 gig model....4 gig if you can swing it. Or the 7xx series is out now, you could opt for one of those....but open your wallet...wide...lol.

For me I opt for the "best bang for the buck" philosophy....which is why I go with AMD...just as good but half the price. Although in most benchmarks, the Intel does beat AMD 90% of the time accross the board but only minimally...but that's just semantics as far as I'm concerned. We all like what we like...although I would like to build an Intel system...hell I'll need $1500 versus $800 for AMD. Go big or don't go at all....lol.

As for your quandary of to build or not...I say build, hands down build...no questions about it.

catilley1092
07-12-2013, 09:44 PM
Actually I can wait for the GPU, as long as I plan for it to go in later. Good GPU's costs money. I know there are GDDR3 models for less than $100, but GDDR5 is twice as fast.

I have a friend who did a AMD build, for $600, he came out with a lot of computer. His only gripes are that no matter what he does, it runs hot (even with one of the better AMD coolers) & that the CPU doesn't support hyperthreading, even though it's 6 core.

Funny thing, AMD's best is always benchmarked against the i3, not the i5/i7. I don't get that at all. One would think that those A-10's would be ranked & run against higher ranked CPU's. Makes me wonder about build quality.

On the other side, AMD does provide the "best bang for the buck", so to speak. Many CPU's from 2-3 years ago are still sold on promo at Newegg with very high ratings. Very few negatives, the few that are usually has to do with the stock cooler. However builders usually installs their own anyway.

I have some practice, have tore this Dell Dimension 2400 down, cleaned it up, added some inexpensive components, like a 3.06 Northwood H/T CPU for only $15 (used but runs great, much better than that wimpy Celeron 2.4). Runs twice as fast as it does when I got it, even on a 10 year old HDD. Here are the specs, I just reinstalled it after a malware issue.

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/kw6WeHkbhFffbWXVN0VHKZD

It's best to learn on older computers, that way if any mistakes are made, not much is lost except time.

Cat

bassfisher6522
07-13-2013, 04:20 AM
Dude, I had no idea your were using a retail PC and its a Dell...lol. I have 2 Dells, one is a 2400 and the other is a 4600, with some minor upgrades. They're not bad for off the shelf PC's.

I just finished my son's build yesterday, which I had been promising him for a year now, from my old spare parts. So now those Dell's will be refurbished and polished up to try and re-sell.

For your friends cooling issue, is he using the stock CPU cooler, if so that's his problem right there. He needs an inexpensive after market CPU cooler, which will dramatically drop his temps. I recommend the "hyper 212" from Cooler Master $29.99, great reviews.

catilley1092
07-13-2013, 10:00 PM
That Dell was given to me by my mother-in-law early last year. Didn't do much with it at first, but wanted to learn how to teardown & cleanup a PC, so I got some experience. Also gained some experience on swapping CPU's, it's easier & faster than swapping HDD's. And made it more desirable to use, as it now can at least boot to a fully working desktop in around 90 seconds, whereas the Celeron 2.4 was pitiful, taking 3 minutes to have a desktop with little power.

Being that it was the most powerful CPU that it would hold, I grabbed an Intel branded Socket 478 CPU fan, it keeps it cool. How cool, I don't know because Dell doesn't include temp monitors for the MB or CPU for that model, just the HDD. But the center of the CPU cooler is copper, so that helps. The stock was simply a square block of aluminum with fins & a Foxconn fan attached to the rear panel cooled it. That fan is still running also.

That friend of mine, he does have a Cooler Master CPU cooler, I believe I expressed myself wrong above. It's one for AMD CPU's. I don't know the model number, only that he gave $15 for it on promo at Newegg. Those Cooler Master ones are popular, so is Zalman, or was at one point. The thing with those, having all of those copper fins easily cuts the one doing the install & is the main negative about it.

As far as Dells goes, I was raised on them, it was in 2009 that my first non-Dell computer was purchased. For all of the gripes about them, they must have been very popular at one time, as parts are easy to find, cheap at that. Plus, they're easy to work on. The only thing about them is that most has connections on the MB that doesn't accept non-Dell components, leading to the need of adapters to plug in some items.

By far, I prefer Dell over HP.

Cat

bassfisher6522
07-14-2013, 03:39 AM
By far, I prefer Dell over HP

Have you ever tried working on an HP, holy crap, it's a nightmare.

Your right with Dells being easy to work on, they're laid out pretty good and access to the hardware is excellent for a retail PC. That's the only draw back with a Dell, their proprietary standards, as you found out, it makes it hard to add after market hardware and components.

catilley1092
07-14-2013, 10:53 AM
Yes I have & agree with you. They are a royal pain & OEM replacement parts costs more & are more scarce than Dell ones are.

There was one that I had to remove the optical & HDD from, to get good access to change RAM sticks on. And this one I'm on now, it's an all-in-one (AIO) type of PC, only the HDD & RAM are easily accessible for swapping. It's now 3 & a half years old, being that the whole thing looks like a 19" monitor, only heavier & made of almost 100% shiny plastic, I'm afraid that due to the heat over that period (yes, it runs hot also), that I may break the casing by taking it apart.

There was a guide that warned of just that, the brittleness from the heat & cooling cycles could make tearing it down & successfully getting it back together a nightmare. It was once suggested to me to take it apart & place the internals in a mini-ATX tower, but haven't found any such articles on how to go about it.

Guess it's left up to the imagination as to what to do, this thing doesn't even have a real PC PSU. It's a 120 watt notebook type one. Here's the PC & specs, the site must have been paid well to give it a 4 out of 5 star ranking in 2009. There were better PC's than this built 5 years earlier in 2004 that outshined it by far.

HP Pavilion All-in-One MS214 PC Review & Rating | PCMag.com (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353806,00.asp)

I did upgrade the RAM to 4GB from the stock 2GB.

Cat

badrobot
07-14-2013, 12:57 PM
HP is a real pain. The components I transferred to a new casing is from HP. When I replaced the CPU fan (I got the SilenX Effizio EFZ-92HA3), made sure of the specs and everything is matched. On the new CPU fan, the base should just snap to the motherboard with those plastic easy-snap-and-lock system. But no, HP had to make it difficult and had a very small screw holes where the plastic snap things can't go through. So, I had to dig in my tuckle box for screws that would fit and only found 2 ( I needed 4).So, McGyver to the rescue. Bent paper clips did the trick.

Here's my old fan:

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and here's the new fan:

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And to make it even more difficult, the front panel pins of the motherboard are not labeled (pwr sw, rst sw, hdd leds, etc.). Luckily, I found something on google.

bassfisher6522
07-14-2013, 03:36 PM
Nice looking and all copper....the only disappointing aspect of that fan is, it only has 2 heat pipes. On newegg.com it's discontinued. So what were your temps before with the stock fan compared to the temps with the new fan. Would love to see pictures of it installed.

badrobot
07-14-2013, 06:20 PM
Nice looking and all copper....the only disappointing aspect of that fan is, it only has 2 heat pipes. On newegg.com it's discontinued. So what were your temps before with the stock fan compared to the temps with the new fan. Would love to see pictures of it installed.

There's actually a big improvement Bass. I used to get a temp of 60C to 65C at idle with the old fan. And goes up to 75C to 80C when I am using the PC. Now it's steady between 45C & 50C.
Here's a shot of it installed ( I went a little fancy with LEDs becasue I saw a red LED strip on sale...hahaha).

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bassfisher6522
07-14-2013, 07:19 PM
I knew there'd be a big improvement in temps...liking the bling....I prefer blue led's. My old CPU cooler was a Sunbeam Core Contack 92mm that did a decent job...I to was in the 40C to 45C range with it.

Sunbeam CR-CCTF92-4 92mm Core-Contact Freezer CPU Cooler , free TX-2 Thermal Paste Included Inside - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207006)

Then I went with a Hyper 212, a second hand...but practically brand new and now I have temps in the 33C to 36C...both coolers are idle temps. It looks like you have room for a 120mm fan. I think my next CPU cooler investment that I might go water cooled.

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible with Intel 1366/1155/775 and AMD FM1/FM2/AM3+ - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065)

bassfisher6522
07-14-2013, 07:27 PM
I'll have to get some shots of my PC and post them...outside and inside.

catilley1092
07-14-2013, 07:46 PM
badrobot. I had a similar issue with the Intel cooler that I bought for my Dell that Bass & I were discussing. The cooler is held in place by these locking hinges that wouldn't work with the Dell CPU retention bracket & had to buy this.

P4 Socket 478 Intel CPU Retention Retainer Bracket | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/140647148266?_trksid=p2048036)

But that wasn't the end of it. It also has those push pins that the Dell doesn't support, so I had to drill the pins out of the new bracket to reuse my existing screws. Then I was able to use my new Intel fan, which does run cooler than the stock Dell does, which was only an aluminum block with fins. No fan was attached, but there was a cheap Foxconn one at the back panel that lowered down over the fins. Obviously, not a lot of engineering went into that cooling setup, but with a stock 2.4GHz Celeron (Northwood), I guess it was OK.

BTW, here is the Intel cooler that I bought. It's still the same price w/free shipping. Good fan for the price, keeps my P4 3.06 H/T (Northwood) cool.

Genuine Intel Heatsink and Fan Socket 478 for Pentium 4 and Celeron CPU'S | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Intel-Heatsink-and-Fan-Socket-478-For-Pentium-4-and-Celeron-CPUs/121121513984?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D261%26meid%3D9081068073640848540%26pid%3D10 0005%26prg%3D1088%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D111072492523%26)

The CPU was $15 & the fan & retention adapter another $17, so for $32 I came out with a PC that runs twice as fast as stock. Of course, it's 10 years old & XP is going to go after support ends next year, it will probably make a good Linux PC. But it still runs good, I'm typing this post on it now. However I no longer make transactions with XP, period. It's simply a browsing PC at this stage & something for me to learn on.

Cat

catilley1092
07-14-2013, 08:55 PM
Bass, that Cooler Master that you linked is a Monster sized one. And to think, there's a newer model that even larger. With that size of a cooler, all one should need is a single exhaust fan, it would seem that more would be a total waste of space.

I can only assume these are for full sized towers, not mini/micro ATX or any SFF PC's. Gotta have room for a decent GPU also!

badrobot, that's a cool looking PC that you have there. I can only take it that it's a home brew rig, never have I seen anything like it in a store or online. I want to build my own at some point, if I don't see one that I like late this fall, I may just go that route myself.

Would $750 build me a nice i5 quad core machine based around by this one?

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504)

I already have 3 main components, an ASUS optical drive, a killer fast WD RE4 500GB HDD (64MB cache), though it's a RAID HDD, it's actually a cooler & faster running Caviar Black. And also a choice of three 1TB HDD's, one a Caviar Black (32MB cache) & two Samsung HD103SJ's (32MB cache). Those Samsungs are good ones also, were recently discontinued. I bought all three of these 1TB's back when they were $49-$59 per TB. In fact, the last was on it's way to me as the prices shot up. Was checking on my order & noticed it jumped from $49 to $119, I ordered in the nick of time.

Still, I want a SSD as the boot drive, but to hold down costs for a halfway decent GPU (2GB GDDR5 will do) of the NVIDIA brand. I'm willing to use the RE4 as the OS install drive for a time.

Oh, the 3rd component that I already have is an OS. My choice of Windows 7 Pro/Ultimate or 8 Pro (the latter would be moved from the Toshiba in my specs below & possibly even the M4 SSD itself). If the SSD were moved, that would make it 4 components that I already have. If so, I'll grab a Scorpio Black to replace it, a 500GB one would be plenty.

That leaves the case, CPU, GPU, PSU, MB, RAM (16GB DDR3 1600) & card reader. Likely some minor accessories. Glad that I have what I do.

What do you all think? Build or buy? The only things that I'm queasy about are any BIOS & MB updates.

Cat

badrobot
07-15-2013, 04:19 AM
Thanks for the compliments Bass & Cat. Actually, there is a minimum modification I did on my pc case.

Cat, the case I got is a Thermaltake Commander MS-I Tower Case Snow Edition I grabbed from Tigerdirect:
Thermaltake VN40006W2N Commander MS-I Snow Edition Tower Case - ATX, Mid-Tower, 3x 5.25 Bays, 5x 3.5 Bays, 7x Expansion Slots, USB, USB 3.0, Security Lock, White at TigerDirect.com (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1927343&CatId=1509)

There was no physical mod. I just added 2-80mm USB-powered blue LED fans on front grill for air intake to push hot air away from hd bays. I just salvaged these 2 fans from a laptop cooler stand I got for only $5 which I find so flimsy. So I just ripped it apart and put the fans in good use. There's no fan slot there but I just held these fans on the front grill with twist-ties. Here re-posting a shot:

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And I also added 2-120mm fans with white LED on top (exhaust) and at the bottom (intake) with blue LED. One cheap additional modification I did on the bottom fan is adding a filter by placing a used fabric softener sheet (yes, the thing my wife used for her laundry :) ) on a cardboard with a 120mm cutout hole held in place using paper clips and I stick it in the bottom of the case. So, I have 3-120mm fans (including the system fan that came with the case). But I still have one more slot for 120mm fan which I think I will just leave alone for now.
Then I got a red sleeved-LED strip on sale and added it in. The LED strip has to be installed in one of the PCI slots in the back of the case because it has a power switch and LED brightness control. I placed the other end of the LED strip on the unoccupied 5.25" bay at the bottom of the bluray optical drive which gave a very cool effect from outside.

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Cat, you should go for a build. I know it takes some time and some headscratching, but you have the knowledge and a lot of friends here to help you out. It's a very exciting and a lot more satisfying thing to do. Having a good performing system is something to be proud of. But I magine how prouder you will feel if you put together that system by yourself. :) I did not actually build this cool PC I have now. It's an off-the-rack HP intel i5 quad core which I did a lot of upgrades already and decided to give it a new house. But while transferring the components to another case, I took everything apart including the CPU to clean it first before installing the new fan. So, when I put everything back together, it's like building from scratch. Only I have everthing I need except for that trouble I had installing the new cpu fan and that unlabeled front panel connections on the motherboard. It's not a gaming machine because my video card is cheap (and I have a PS3 for gaming purpose :) ). It's the cheapest card I found on Amazon (got it on sale for $70) that is capable of handling 3 monitors. But it performs well for my purpose.

badrobot
07-15-2013, 10:39 AM
Bass, can't wait for your pc shots dude. I like your case too... :)

badrobot
07-17-2013, 04:31 AM
Just wanna share this review of the new CPU fan I got.

SilenX EFZ-92HA3 CPU Cooler | Bjorn3D.com (http://www.bjorn3d.com/2011/11/silenx-efz-92ha3-cpu-cooler/)

Yesterday, I downloaded Real Temp to check my core temps... all 4 cores are between 34 C and 38C running loaded across 3 monitors. It is very quiet. I know this is not a new product and discontinued on some sites. But some stores like Tigerdirect still carries them.

Here's the fan running (top-center):

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catilley1092
07-17-2013, 09:10 AM
That's a nice cooler you have there! Plus, unlike most popular ones, not so bulky that one needs a full sized tower (& three hands) to install it.

I much prefer compact accessories that can serve it's purpose over bulky ones that for many, is difficult to install. As long as the cooler is doing it's job, the smaller the better. One reason that I chose a stock Intel 478 cooler over what was available at Newegg (one of those massive Cooler Masters) for a P4 3.06 GHz CPU.

Have bookmarked the page of the product for future reference. Thanks for sharing.

Cat

bassfisher6522
07-17-2013, 11:15 AM
That's a nice cooler you have there! Plus, unlike most popular ones, not so bulky that one needs a full sized tower (& three hands) to install it.

Lmao....hell even some of the small ones you need 3 hands. You should see what I really want to install for a CPU cooler, w/triple fans!!!!! This bad boy....

Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BL 140mm UFB (Updraft Floating Balance) CPU Cooler - Newegg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835709002)

badrobot
07-17-2013, 11:34 AM
That was a car radiator Bass... :P

bassfisher6522
07-17-2013, 04:34 PM
That was a car radiator Bass... :P

LMAO...I know, right.

I was checking on some benchmarks for it and it gets the same temps as some of the self-contained CPU water coolers and in some cases a bit better and it's a lot quieter. I'm still undecided on going water cooled vs that Phantek 14. I have the room for either...just not sure yet.

TechnoMage
07-17-2013, 05:27 PM
Use an AMD cpu instead of an Intel, and you won't have to ever worry about cooling. They run cool enough that the OEM cooler that comes with the CPU is all you'll ever need. I've been running the same cooler on my own AMD cpu for the past 8 years.

I have one old computer that I built in 2000 and it's still running the original cpu and cpu cooler.

Some people could make a Federal Case out of a traffic ticket! Eh?

:cool:

bassfisher6522
07-17-2013, 07:13 PM
Use an AMD cpu instead of an Intel, and you won't have to ever worry about cooling. They run cool enough that the OEM cooler that comes with the CPU is all you'll ever need. I've been running the same cooler on my own AMD cpu for the past 8 years.

I have one old computer that I built in 2000 and it's still running the original cpu and cpu cooler.

Some people could make a Federal Case out of a traffic ticket! Eh?

:cool:

cooler pooper....lol

catilley1092
07-17-2013, 08:30 PM
Use an AMD cpu instead of an Intel, and you won't have to ever worry about cooling. They run cool enough that the OEM cooler that comes with the CPU is all you'll ever need. I've been running the same cooler on my own AMD cpu for the past 8 years.

I have one old computer that I built in 2000 and it's still running the original cpu and cpu cooler.

Some people could make a Federal Case out of a traffic ticket! Eh?

:cool:

Then why does my stock AMD runs deep into the orange zone most of the time, after an hour or more of use? Due to the type of PC it is (an AIO one), one cannot add a cooler, an extra ventilation fan, nothing. What I did do was remove the HDD cover & placed one of those personal desk fans to force air into it, that was the only thing that helped at all.

Thing about it, it's not a monster chip, just a 1.5GHz Athlon X2 3250e (22 watt low power). That was why I didn't upgrade that to a 2.1GHz CPU, it's only going to run hotter.

If I could tear it down & place the internals in a SFF case, I'd do so, but can't even find a hint of instructions as to where to begin. Here is the link to the POS.

HP Pavilion All-in-One MS214 PC Review & Rating | PCMag.com (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2353806,00.asp)

And the author noted:


A few glitches hold the system back from the top of the heap, but the underlying hardware is certainly worth noting. If the MS214 is in a store near you, take a look.

WTF was he smoking? There were far better PC's than this in 2004, 5 years prior to the article being written. And he gave it an "Excellent" rating at that?

Cat

badrobot
08-02-2013, 05:14 AM
More mods for my PC... got a temp LCD display.
There's also one with fan controls, but I don't want to be controlling fan speeds. I just want to monitor how my temps are doing.

I can't get the right spot to put the sensors on my CPU. The readings between the CPUID app and the LCD display have an average difference of 6C. But I guess I'll just leave it at that and just add the 6C difference from the reading. :)

I had to let go of the DVD burner and just leave the bluray burner. I guess I don't need 2 anyway.

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badrobot
06-06-2014, 04:52 AM
The photo above is old. The latest modification I did on my CPU case is moving the temperature monitor inside the case and replaced it with a 3.5" hot-swappable hard drive tray. I also removed the grills below it and added a 2-2.5" not swappable drive trays where I now boot my Win 7 and Win 8 in SSDs. I also added a 7 in 1 card reader on the 3.5" slot above the windows logo sticker.

Here's the updated photo:

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I also added a spare 17" on the side and here's the latest setup:

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Another shot of the setup: https://q61hdq.dm2302.livefilestore.com/y2pP9flEpHV4unEnegF-TlZF9aKzKNaM9ACXugJ2EWdNyLw12Tu8Opxq4KIJaL67pZrvdM Vfcyhz6AlMQFomkpW2hsvEKgMO7v10Z8wCTfE_D8/scrn06.gif?psid=1


Cheers!




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