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Drew
05-10-2012, 05:08 PM
1. As a virtual machine

2. As a dual-boot

3. On a spare computer

4. As your 1 & only, computer

5. Installed via Upgrade

6. Custom (clean) Install

Poll requires more than 1 question be answered. % or 6 must be answered in addition to any of 1 through 4.

Thank you,
Drew

Medico
05-10-2012, 05:11 PM
Sorry Drew, I did not see this. I started a poll in another thread. I will delete mine!

It's gone. I like your options better anyway.

Drew
05-10-2012, 05:13 PM
Nor did I (notice)… no worries.

Drew

Medico
05-10-2012, 05:16 PM
I set mine up as a dual boot. I have a laptop as my test PC so a dual boot was the best option for me. I Image both my main OS (Win 7) and my Win 8 CP regularly. When Win 8 RP comes out I will install that (Clean Install) directly over Win 8 CP and continue as I am now.

Drew
05-10-2012, 05:28 PM
Yep, the Beta2 will go in the same place as the Beta1 is now & again, will draw from stuff on the Data drive. All OSs & all drives are imaged or backed-up on a 1.5 TB Ext drive, all the time, too.

Quick, easy, safe.

Oh & that's cool about the poll(s), Ted. That kind of teamwork, cooperation & mutual respect is nice. Thanks.

Cheers,
Drew

Joe S
05-10-2012, 05:36 PM
I'm running it on a Virtual Hard Disk. No partitioning required and just delete it when you are done. I think it only works with Windows 7 Ultimate and Enterprise editions.
Joe

Elly N
05-10-2012, 05:55 PM
Windows 8 is the only operating system on my pc.

catilley1092
05-10-2012, 07:32 PM
I'm tri booting XP Media Center, Windows 7 Pro x64 & 8 CP on the same HDD. The only times that I'm not running Windows 8 is while conducting business.

Otherwise, Windows 8 CP is my default OS. Will install Windows 8 RP the same way that I did CP, on a spare HDD, after I see it runs OK, then I'll format the space where Windows 8 CP is & replace it with RP.

Cat

Rick
05-10-2012, 08:03 PM
I put Windows 8 CP on a spare Hdd what little bit I do on it is backup use Windows 7 for most of my work Bigs thing I see wrong with Windows 8 CP are people not reading and doing there home work before they start

catilley1092
05-10-2012, 08:54 PM
I put Windows 8 CP on a spare Hdd what little bit I do on it is backup use Windows 7 for most of my work Bigs thing I see wrong with Windows 8 CP are people not reading and doing there home work before they start Rick, you're absolutely 100% correct. There were answers to many questions on the access page to the download of Windows 8 CP in this link.

Windows 8 Consumer Preview: frequently asked questions (http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/faq)

Many users ignored these things & proceeded anyway. Problem is, with every pre-release of Windows, it's always going to be that way.

Cat

Medico
05-11-2012, 01:05 AM
Windows 8 is the only operating system on my pc.

Elly N, Welcome to our Forum.

What is your plan when Win 8 RP is released? Do you have your original OS on another PC? Once Win 8 RP is released in early June, it will require a Custom (Clean) install. There is no upgrade install path from one beta to another beta OS. At some point in time after Win 8 RP is released Win 8 CP will deactivate.

Drew
05-11-2012, 02:11 AM
Ah, Ted, you beat me to the same curiosity about Elly N ;)

Joe, please, mark Virtual & Clean on the poll

Hmmm, 3 so far, already, that Win8 BETA is their only OS on their only computer. Ah, what now, Yogi??

Cheers,
Drew

Medico
05-11-2012, 01:46 PM
I think there will not be a lot of people taking the poll because we'll have the same problem here as elsewhere, no one will read it! LOL

TechnoMage
05-11-2012, 02:20 PM
I didn't see 'On a spare hard drive' in the poll, so I checked on a spare computer. OK?

Just for fun, here's how I run extra OS's on my HAL 9000 PC.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g90/DrWho1943/Computer%20Stuff/ExternalHD.jpg

I have two drives permanently installed inside the case and I can run two more on the outside. I just plug in the power cable for the drive I want to run, so no drive can mess around with another one. Works for me!

When Win-8/RT comes out, I'll just reformat my /CP drive and install /RT. NO big deal, as I have no data files on my /CP drive. That's why they call it TESTING and not RUNNING! Eh?

TM :cool:

Medico
05-11-2012, 02:27 PM
My lap would get awful congested if I tried to do that on my laptop! LOL ;) :cool:

TechnoMage
05-11-2012, 02:50 PM
I'm coming as close as I can, on my own Laptop.
First I split the 160 gig HD into two equal partitions,
then I backed up XP onto the second part. as a compressed Ghost Backup Image file, for safe keeping.
Then I reformatted the C: partition and installed Win-8/CP/32 on it. It runs great!

When I'm done TESTING Win-8/CP I can just boot up with my Ghost boot disk, restore my compressed XP backup and be back to where I was several months ago.
I don't think I'll bother TESTING win-8/RT on that Laptop computer.

I will test it here on my "HAL 9000" though. Why not, I've got lots of spare hard drives. :)

TM :cool:

Drew
05-11-2012, 04:41 PM
Ummm, now, let's see, Ted... if, one is looking @ a Forum, you would think one must know how to read.

You're using that silly logic, again, Spock.

Does it hurt, Yogi? Only when I laugh, Boo Boo, only when I laugh.

Medico
05-11-2012, 04:51 PM
You would think so, but they don't read anything else we write. We'll write the same answer or recommendation 8 times in 8 different forums and we still get the same question once again, you know what I mean?

TechnoMage
05-11-2012, 06:00 PM
Well, I for one, know exactly what you mean.

I've left several forums, over the last few years, because the questions just kept getting dumber and dumber and the answers were getting likewise dumber.
And the newcomers refuse to do the one thing that EVERY forum requires.....
READ Before you POST.

Drew
05-11-2012, 06:40 PM
Course, I know what you mean, Ted. I've experience it for years, both in forums & w/ clients, in person. Takes a lot of patience, understanding & the strength of Jobe to be an IT Pro sometimes.

Cheers,
Drew

catilley1092
05-11-2012, 07:57 PM
Course, I know what you mean, Ted. I've experience it for years, both in forums & w/ clients, in person. Takes a lot of patience, understanding & the strength of Jobe to be an IT Pro sometimes.

Cheers,
Drew I can imagine that the job, although a rewarding one, can be a PITA at times. Especially when your clients doesn't follow your instructions. At many workplaces, there's usually one around who tries to "fix things", who hasn't had any IT training, & master passwords are frequently easy to obtain. This is not a good practice, because the one who tried to fix it made it worse.

I cannot even begin to remember how many times my office door was popped open with a plastic object, just to hard boot the main PC because their hand held computers weren't ready by 1AM. It worked, but the computer was damaged by doing this a lot, rather than calling me to reboot the right way.

Eventually, I had to put a deadbolt & padlock onto my office door over this issue. I wasn't the company's IT Pro (we had one come by bi-weekly), but I was in charge of the office PC & handhelds, & the only one (except those above me) who was authorized to make changes. Problem was, as I stated above, there was a district wide (120 miles) master password & some Operation Managers (my job) gave the password to certain employees, just to keep from getting out of bed when a problem arose. The password was leaked everywhere.

I fought for & eventually got it to where each distribution center had it's own password, & that put a total stop to any unauthorized BS going on.

Cat

5150
05-31-2012, 12:19 PM
Dual boot 7 and 8 on a desktop.
Main OS on a laptop.

F-Secure Internet Security beta on both
Has been, shall we say .....interesting.

TechnoMage
05-31-2012, 01:06 PM
I'll bet!

Well, at least you've COA, (covered your a**). So many don't and we've even had to evict a few, that got totally bent out of shape when we told them how badly they have screwed up.

I have one laptop that used to run XP-Pro, but that OS is neatly compressed and backed up into a Storage Partition.
That li'l PC has happily been running Win-8/CP/32 for that past few months. Very well, I might add.
Win-8/CP/32 had compatible drivers for all the main stuff....video, sound, LAN, keyboard and touchpad.
I even plugged in a Wireless Mouse and it worked right off the bat.

On my main PC, where I run windows XP-Pro as my everyday OS, Win-8/CP/64 occupies a prime seat on a second internal hard drive, and Win-8/CP/32 lives happily on an external HD, sitting on the table baside my main PC.

I only connect my Win-8 drives, (one at a time) when I want to test something out on W8. The rest of the time they sit there quietly disconnected, just minding their own business..... like a book on a shelf.
And they are not mucking about with my XP drive.

My laptop and my two Win-8 drives are just marking time now till I install Win-8/RP/32 and 64 on them.
I'm thinking, this will be a busy weekend! Eh?

Cheers Y'all!

TechnoMage :cool:

catilley1092
05-31-2012, 08:01 PM
Until this evening, I was running Windows 8 CP in a tri boot setup. XP MCE, 7 Pro x64 & Win 8 CP x64. All runs fine.

For the time being, I have Win 8 RP on a 40GB WD HDD by it's lonesome. Need to make sure that all is OK before installing it where the CP install is now, plus I need to image that HDD before doing anything with it.

Cat

Medico
06-01-2012, 12:29 AM
Well, Now I have Win 7 Ultimate as my main (although somewhat lonely) OS, dual booted with a very responsive Win 8 RP. Both OS's point to my Data Partition for data storage.

Drew
06-01-2012, 01:27 AM
Ditto :D

Doing dual-boot is so damn easy! I'll never get why ppl make it (sound) so complicated.

There's 1 OS
Start up the machine w/ another OS disc in the optical drive
Hit ANY key
Select the location where it is to install
And that's that.
Boot up & there's 2 OSs to choose

All done, quick, simple, easy. (rhetorical) Why on earth do ppl talk about it like it such a complex, involved, multi-step endeavour, an effort that needs some extra software & fancy boot manipulations? Needs none of it.

Cheers,
Drew

Drew
06-01-2012, 03:34 AM
Me, all I did, was throw the CP away & put the x64 RP in the same location as the CP use to be. You know, I've done a lot of builds & OS installs over the years but, never as quickly & easily as this thing... how very different!!

Still, dual-boot Win7 & Win8. I try to go keep 7 updated & then back to 8.

Cheers,
Drew

Russ Walden
06-01-2012, 05:32 AM
I started running it on a separate machine, but have now moved that drive into my "main computer" as a separate boot device. I still do all my work in Win7, and boot to Win8 when it is play time. Might do more work in Win8 if I could persuade Adobe and others to let me run two sets of software using the same key.

My real interest is in a Win8 tablet. I will buy two of those as soon as a good one is released by a reputable manufacturer.

Regards,
Russ

TechnoMage
06-01-2012, 09:45 AM
I have three hard drives, loosely connected to my main PC, The HAL 9000.
That is to say, I have three hard drives, all connected to the SATA II ports on my motherboard, but they all share just one power cable, so no two can ever be powered up at the same time.
* Never the trains shall meet. (old railroad saying)

So no OS has any knowledge of another one. That keeps peace in the house. :o

On W8/CP I had to do some acrobatics and gymnastics to make Windows Media Player my default player....but today I had no such problems at all. I put in a music DVD and media player jumped to attention. It's definitely my favorite player, with Equalizer, WOW, and all the extended sound effects. And all those neat visualizations. :)

The previous versions were just a tease, but this one looks like it might be a KEEPER.
Everything is up and running 100% without any driver problems.

My next job is to install the new 32 bit version on my laptop, to replace W8/CP/32.

Cheers Mates!
TechnoMage :cool:

Russ Walden
06-01-2012, 10:36 AM
TechnoMage --
I take it that you are concerned about cross-talk between the OS's. I've never had a problem with that, and have had multiple drives with different OS, and sometimes the same OS, in one machine for years. I still have a semi-live XP drive in one of my computers that normally runs Win7.
I have a lot of hardware around, so I can play with different combinations. I'm the only guy I know who lives alone and has a five computer network (plus wireless). Some of my acquaintances think that's strange, but my friends understand.

I prefer clean install (vs. upgrade) of any OS, because there are always gremlins that like to come along for the ride. The real work is installing all the software, especially the carefully protected stuff like Adobe. I kinda stay on their excrement list because I'm often moving drives around. They're watching me closely now, because a recent lightning strike took out three of my most-used computers (and all my network hardware), so I was scrambling between computers to keep my work going. I'm sure somebody there thinks I'm a crook.

When Win8 is a final release, I will make it my primary OS on at least two machines. Only then will it be worth the effort to install all of my major software, and deal with the de-activation and re-activation issues. I will likely not run it on my laptop until I buy a new one. My laptop is a travel machine, and I don't want to be in downtown Oshkosh when some unforeseen issue rears its ugly head.

As mentioned above, my real interest is in having a good Win8 tablet. Patience, patience, patience . . .

Regards,
Russ

TechnoMage
06-01-2012, 11:54 AM
Russ, I too live alone and have 16 working computers in my house. My Wireless network encompasses the whole block and I'm currently providing Wi-Fi to two different families.
I have three computers working off of Wi-Fi here in the house.

Crosstalk, if you want to call it that, is not a rumor or a myth. It's real, it's VERY real.

When once I had XP and 7 both on the same PC and visible at the same time, one deleted all the restore points from the other.
That's when I decided to keep my OS's, like my girlfriends, Apart. lol

It's no big deal, really. Anyone with half a brain a a few extra HD's can do the same. Eh?

I'm on Win-8/RP/64 right now, and I just set up Thunderbird, so I can get my email here, without going back to XP.

I'm hoping some clever H***** (programmer) comes along and figgers out how to make windows mail work on Win-8, like on Win-7. I've been trying, but I don't have it working yet.....yet!

Cheers Mate!
TechnoMage :cool:

Drew
06-01-2012, 02:38 PM
Certainly, Russ, that reflects one of the major design goals of Win8... to have an OS that is happy on different devices.. Touch, non-Touch desktops, laptops AND mobile devices like tablets & the rest.

Cheers,
Drew

catilley1092
06-01-2012, 07:16 PM
I have three hard drives, loosely connected to my main PC, The HAL 9000.
That is to say, I have three hard drives, all connected to the SATA II ports on my motherboard, but they all share just one power cable, so no two can ever be powered up at the same time.
* Never the trains shall meet. (old railroad saying)

So no OS has any knowledge of another one. That keeps peace in the house. :o

On W8/CP I had to do some acrobatics and gymnastics to make Windows Media Player my default player....but today I had no such problems at all. I put in a music DVD and media player jumped to attention. It's definitely my favorite player, with Equalizer, WOW, and all the extended sound effects. And all those neat visualizations. :)

The previous versions were just a tease, but this one looks like it might be a KEEPER.
Everything is up and running 100% without any driver problems.

My next job is to install the new 32 bit version on my laptop, to replace W8/CP/32.

Cheers Mates!
TechnoMage :cool: That's how I run the 4 HDD's on my desktop PC, one at a time. Although 2 of them tri-boot, another (the OEM HDD) is a dual boot between Win 7 Pro x64 & Ubuntu 12.04, the last is an old 40GB WD that is currently testing Win 8 RP all by itself. It can't harm any of my other drives at all.

This is really no big deal to run Win 8 CP/RP, just follow the stickies that Ted posted in regards running pre-release versions of Win 8, all will be fine.

Notebooks are certainly different, but a dual boot can be pulled off. Another thing, if the HDD is of the type that's secured by a screw on the corner, it can be pulled right out. This allows for very fast swapping of HDD's, it's best to have an extra HDD caddy, that way one can easily install another HDD in the notebook in less than a minute. One screw to remove, slide it out & swap. This allows for the user to retain their recovery & system partitions, as one would have to go to install another OS on the same HDD & be able to create a Data partition (4 primaries are the limit).

Cat

Joe S
06-01-2012, 07:45 PM
I'm running it on a virtual hard disk. No partitioning and when you are done just delete it. I think this only works with Windows 7 Ultimate and Enterprise.
Joe

catilley1092
06-01-2012, 09:01 PM
That's the way I was going to run it on my notebook that runs Win 7 Pro x64, you're right. After looking up the features of Win 7, this only works on 7 Enterprise & Ultimate. Win 8 CP didn't run well on VirtualBox or VMWare Player, I didn't even try it on Windows Virtual PC. It has less features than either of the above has.

But it's good for XP Mode, for those users who needs it & don't have a Full Retail XP install program around.

Cat