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09-05-2010, 09:49 PM
Hi, i dont have a great deal of knowledge when it comes to backing up and restore so please forgive me. I just wanted to find out if i can have two applications on my pc, one for file and folders(as the one i use is totally friendly) plus a drive backup/imaging program?.

I have Norton 15 at the moment but have just noticed from another post that Paragon special edition 2010 is available as a free givaway today and wondered if this was any better/more reliable?

Any guidance would be appreciated.


02-07-2012, 08:30 PM
Hi there,

I have ever used Norton, not so good. For me , I like some lazy software which do not need me to do many operations.

Windows 8 backup requires a different approach than you need for less powerful versions of Microsoft Windows. It comes with a range of advanced security features which make it relatively difficult to back up system files, disk images, open files, etc. So I never do it by myself. I often ask others to do me a good.

03-22-2012, 10:50 AM
For Imaging the Windows app is less than full featured. I use Acronis True Image Home v 2010 on my wife's PV and v 2011 on my PC. This is not a free app, but works quite well for me. I have restored both Win 7 and Win 8 CP from Images numerous times.
When I create an Image (at least once per month, generally more often so my Images are Up To Date) I include both my Win 7 partition and my Win 8 CP partition in the Image file. I generally do not include my Data partition because I back up my data by other means and much more often than once per month. When I restore an Image I have to restore one partition or the other at a time. I can not restore both partitions at the same time. I store my Images on an ext USB HD.

Remember that whatever app you use for Imaging you must create a Boot disk or Boot Media or whatever the app calls it once (This will fit on a CD). This is the disk you will boot to in order to both create your Images and restore your Images. Remember the reason you have to restore is something bad happened. Your PC probably will not boot. You insert your boot media, boot to it, connect your media where your Images are stored (ext USB HD in my case) and follow the directions.

Now comes the scarry part. Once you have created and validated an Image, you must ensure it will work when needed. Guess how you do this. You go ahead and restore the Image. The first time you do this is pretty scarry. What can I say. We all went through this. If you feel better test it on Win 8 CP first. That way if it goes bad you are not out as much time as your main OS.

There are many excellent Imaging apps. As I said I use Acronis. Macrium Reflect is also excellent as is Ghost and EaseUS ToDo v4 and others. The point is to do it.

Joe S
03-23-2012, 08:35 PM
I use Acronis TI 2010 also. My system is partitioned with data on one and Windows and programs on the other. Reinstall takes about 15 min or less. Acronis also recommends not to copy or defrag the image. The only annoyance with Acronis is the disk letters are changed. Your external may be drive G when actually running but when running from rescue disk it may be a different letter.

03-23-2012, 08:44 PM
I use Macrium Reflect & Todo 4.0, they both are fine, free options.

The difference between the two, is that Todo 4.0 allows for file/folder backups, while Macrium does disk imaging only (in the free version). Another difference is that Todo restores all, Macrium does it one partition at a time.

There has been an updated version of Macrium over what I use. I'm still using version 4.2, the newest is 5.something. It was a major upgrade, so I decided to stick with the older version. It does what I need it to do, that's what counts.

I did have Acronis True Image 2010 on my OEM install of Windows 7, but found that backup times vs Macrium were slower. Plus, one image wouldn't restore. Many users have had positive experiences with Acronis, but since 64 bit computing became the standard with Windows 7, there has been complaints.

What I ended up doing, was to place Acronis on my ThinkPad T42. It runs well on XP.

But regardless of what backup software used, use one or the other. Too many choices not to. And it's not a matter of if, but when that backup will be needed. I've been there several times.


03-27-2012, 11:25 AM
Being an Old Timer myself, I still use an old timers program..... Ghost.
It was written by a little known software company in New Zealand, and released to the US in ~1997.
I was working for a small IT service when my boss got a free copy of Ghost and we started using it in the shop, to clone small hard drives to larger ones.

I was re-acquainted with Ghost when I found Ghost 2002 on a driver disk that came with a new motherboard that I had just bought. Somehow, that got updated to Ghost 2003, that worked great with Windows XP.
It was still small enough to run from a DOS boot floppy disk. I still have that on a floppy disk and it still works great for Windows XP and everything before that.
Even Linux!

I upgraded that to Ghost 11.5, still a DOS program, but now too big to fit on a single floppy. It does run great from a Bootable Flash Drive or CD.
Ghost 11.5 will back up a full disk or a single partition, but does not do file backups. I use XCOPY, in a batch file, for that. It's quick and easily customized.

I really like Ghost 11.5, because it will reliably back up any and all OS's from windows 98 to Win-8/64 with NO problems at all.
I've tried other programs, just for comparison, and there really is NO Comparison.

TM :cool:

Backup! Backup! Backup! Ghost Rocks!
A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument!

03-27-2012, 12:05 PM
If you have a reliable place to store data files, like a second hard drive or a fairly large Flash Drive, you can use a very simple XCOPY command in a batch file to copy any new or modified files to your backup location,

I do that, in several different ways, to keep various things updated.

This line backs up my Wordperfect data files:
xcopy "C:\MyFiles\*.*" "D:\MyFiles\" /s /y /H /R /D

While this line, backs up Everything in My Documents folders.
xcopy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\My Documents\*.*" "D:\My Documents\" /s /y /H /R /D

Only files that have either changed or have been added will be backed up.
My daily backup takes about three seconds.
I run my Backup batch file from a shortcut on my desktop.
It don't get much simpler than that.

I hate adding more programs to Windows, to do things that can be done with what's already on every computer by default, as a part of Windows.

Cheers Mate!
TechnoMage :cool:
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