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    Default Re: Windows 8 wont start after give more space to my os partition

    This is a perfect example of why all of us should make it a first priority to create recovery disks (today's computers has this option, it's less costly for the OEM's) & Backup the computer also. Don't forget to burn the Rescue CD for the backup app.

    These two methods, either of them, would have saved the day & additional cost down the road.

    While partitioning tools are valuable for certain tasks, some caution must be used prior to using them, the most important is backing up what's there before moving, changing & creating partitions.

    One other thing, it's best for the OS partition to be as compact as possible. Not overly small, but 80 to 100GB is plenty for most users. Windows 8, in the real world, requires less space than Windows 7 did when new. On my desktop, I have a 85GB partition for Windows 8, only 30.1GB is being used, & that's with Office 2010 Pro Plus & loaded with apps. It was using less than that, but this install is a clone that was on a SSD, so I re-enabled Hibernation & System Restore (both of which isn't recommended for SSD users, they both use space). When Windows 8 Pro was on the SSD, it was barely using 20GB of space with most of the same apps installed.

    So to use 50+GB HDD space on Windows 8 would have required a ton of apps & probably some games also. If the OS install partition was 100GB, that was plenty. That "other" space is best used for Data, things that you want to keep, such as downloads, pictures/videos (only use the Libraries for temporary storage of these), documents, etc. These items are best stored away from the OS partition, so that they are recoverable in the event of a major OS crash.

    Have you tried the "Rebuild MBR" option on your partitioning CD? It may or may not work, but it's worth trying. And your recovery partition doesn't work either? Normally, this is independent of the OS, pressing one of the "F" keys at startup should allow you to recover, unless that partition was damaged also. I cannot understand why that would have been altered by extending the OS partition.

    Finally, AOMEI partitioning solutions is as good or better than any on the market. Though I just discovered the brand in early 2012, a preview version to the Pro version now offered, it worked just as good & had at least one feature that others (at the time) didn't have. That's SSD alignment, critical not only to performance, but the lifespan of these drives.

    Though on my main two computers, I have the Pro version of AOMEI, on my older ones, I'm still running the preview w/o issue. The brand has everything that I need to manage HDD space with & have not had a single adverse event with it.

    Based on what I've read here, there's reason to believe that more took place than extending the OS install partition. It would seem that some things got moved around, & the MBR is screwed up. Otherwise, the recovery partition should fire right up & reload the OS within minutes.

    Did that partition get messed with? Normally, it's hidden, however partitioning tools allows one to see where it is (normally on the far right end, but can also be on the left of the scale). It just seems that more was done, other than what has been described.

    Cat

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    Default Re: Windows 8 wont start after give more space to my os partition

    Bit of advice or @ least something to keep life simple or make life easier (read, more trouble/hassle free).

    IF you don't partition a drive when installing the OS then just use a physically separate HDD if you are trying or wanting to create a dual-boot scenario. HDDs & SSDs are cheap.

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    Use VMs instead of mucking about w/ or trying to create partitions or modifying them.

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    Just as an aside... when building a machine, if there are not two actual drives, 1 for Sys, 1 for Data... (then) always partition the drive to which you are installing to create a Sys drive and a Data drive.

    If you ever have to rebuild that OS... well, you see the point, I'm sure.

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: Windows 8 wont start after give more space to my os partition

    For anyone who may concern on this post, I suggest you create Partition Assistant bootable CD to manage your Windows 8's hard drive. And before you resize your system partition, we suggest you backup your system, just in case of any accident. And currently we have already released a 5.1.2 which has been optimized, I think it is much more compatible to WIndows 8. And we are collecting the feedbacks and trying to find out the problem and revise it. Sorry for the troubles.

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    Default Re: Windows 8 wont start after give more space to my os partition

    Drew, you have a valid point, most computers of today has at least one USB3 port, even notebooks where there's no 2nd HDD bay. Being that HDD's are constantly on promo, as well as cases/enclosures & docking stations (I assemble my own backup drives, don't buy retail packaged ones).

    Though I dual boot on both of my main computers, on my notebook that's USB3 equipped, I could stand to go the VM route with Windows 7 Pro, & may well end up doing so. My original HDD is in a BYTECC aluminum 2.5" enclosure, & with USB3, it runs almost as fast as my desktop drive does. If it were a 7200 rpm one instead of a 5400 rpm one, I believe it would be faster.

    Can't get nothing to run fast on my desktop, have spent hundreds of dollars on various hard drives, only to find out that it's the controller that's the key factor, & AMD cannot compete with Intel there. On my Intel powered MSI notebook, SSD's are lightning fast, not the case on my AMD powered (JMicron Flash controllers) HP desktop, which come hell or high water, is going to be replaced by year's end by a Intel/NVIDIA based model.

    As far as the OP's issue goes, I believe what we have here is a rookie mistake. We've all made them, & when I say "we", I mean myself also. We have to learn to crawl before we learn to walk, the same applies to computing. There is so much to keep up with, & on top of that, the computing world is changing at a much more rapid pace than the turn of the century.

    One way that these type of mistakes can be avoided, is for users to read their owner's manual before using. With both of the computers that I bought new, there were instructions in the manual to create recovery disks ASAP after using it, & before making any changes. Backup was also covered, though more emphasis was placed on creating the recovery disk set (it's a feature of the computer). In my experience, I've found it best to have both.

    My suggestion to the OP would now be to contact the OEM ASAP on how to order recovery media, the model & serial numbers will be required, the cost should be between $15 & $30, it will include 3 to 5 DVD's & instructions on how to use them. This will place the computer in "like new" condition, & once that's done, update the OS, install a Free backup option such as Macrium Reflect, & make a Full backup of the computer while it's freshly installed.

    As an alternative, the OP could use a Windows 8 Bootable DVD of the proper bit version, though I'm unsure whether to advise to use a Upgrade or System Builder DVD (my inclination leans towards the System Builder one, as the only upgrade versions that I've seen are Pro). This would give the OP a clean install, w/o the bloatware, however keep in mind that not all OEM extras are "crapware". Some are very useful utilities, even though most are reduced function ones. One of my favorites is the Power2Go suite on my OEM version of Windows 7. As I suggested above, backup is necessary.

    I realize that some members/viewers of these tech forums often hears that Backup is the best preventative medicine for most computers, & to some, it may seem that we're cramming the idea down one's throat. However, the intention is that at some point (note that I didn't include an "if" in there), we're going to need that first or most recent backup, which should be done on a monthly basis. Hard drives fail, the OS gets corrupted by a number of things, including the over usage of cleaning & "tune up" utilities. And the installing/uninstalling of apps often leaves behind traces, which over time also slows the OS.

    This is where having that very first & last backup comes in handy, along with the partitioning CD. First, backup the computer, then use the partitioning CD to wipe the OS partition, a single or DOD style (3 wipes) is plenty. DO NOT use this method on SSD's, use Secure Erase instead. Then reinstall the backup in the same place, it's like having a new computer again. If there's a Data partition, retrieve it from the last backup.

    Those with experience knows where I'm coming from, this is needed, not optional maintenance.

    Cat

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